Actual info regarding how to transmute sex energy

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Retentionman, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. Retentionman

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    I've been reading and researching regarding Kundalini, chakra opening, semen retention and similar topics for quite a few years now, but I always found difficult if not impossible, to find information on the actual process of transmutation, many talk about how good sexual energy is and that it must not be wasted but rather transmuted, but few tell you how to.

    Until I came across taoism which led me to Mantak Chia, I read one of his books called "Taoist Secrets of Love, Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" and here I finally found many detailed explanations and excercises on why and how to transmute the energy, accumulate it in the testes and send it to your brain via your spine. From there your energy will go in circles (microcosmic orbit) without wasting anything but rather incrementing your energy. Obviously it's not as easy as that, you must practice be constistent.

    I just wanted to share this with you, I think that reading and learning from this book is what actually made me open my eyes and realize what I was wasting, I have had a different mind since then, totally neutral feelings (if not repulsive) towards the whole idea of porn and masturbation (useless and vane masturbation, you might find out later that you can make love to yourself but it's different). In other words I have not been battling against this habit, it's just gone. Obviously I have control over myself too but you get the idea.

    If you want the book , with a simple google search you will find it. (If not send me a message)

    Also if you have more information or books regarding this topic please leave me a comment, I'm very interested.
     
  2. I have high hopes on this ebook. Thanks for sharing!
     
  3. Wildwidler'swallet

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    Nice one! I'm excited to give it a go.
    You're on the money my friend.
     
  4. ASABOVESOBELOW

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    Mantak Chia is sort of like an entry level exposure to actual Taoist/Qigong practises, but some of it is harmful to practise, and some harmful without pre-established reserves of qi energy/essence etc...... I would highly recommend people checking out a legitimate master such as Professor Yan Xin (or one of his students for an easier approach; Chunyi Lin or "Spring Forest Qigong".

    Yan Xin is a famous Qigong master who provided healing sessions for George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, and the ex-Premiere of China, as well as hosting numerous 14+ hour long (without even a piss break) qi-emitting lectures to 10,000 thousand people at a time in stadiums in China, where people had spontanious and miraculous recoveries from various illnesses.

    He has also published hundreds of studies, at places ranging from Harvard University, University of High Energy Physics Beijing, Cal-Tec, and the Jet Propolsion Laboratory (of whom the co-founder of the place was a huge proponent of Yan Xin's work, and is also the founder of the Chinese space programme, and their first nuclear weapons programme (as well as having worked on the American nuclear weapons programme before defecting to China).

    One of his books "Secrets and Benefits of Qigong" is available for free in PDF form online, as well as the classified book "Yan Xin Qigong and the Contemporary Sciences" which was classified for around 10 years, is available from the CIA Freedom of Information Act Library.

    This stuff is the real-deal, and I consider him perhaps the most important person in the "mainstream" knowledge of the past 1,000 years.
     
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  5. Retentionman

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    Welcome brother!
     
  6. Retentionman

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    My pleasure, be disciplined
     
  7. Retentionman

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    He does say this in his book, at least 30 days of energy reserves. I've been doing them since day 1 though, could you tell me why is it dangerous? And thanks for the other book.
     
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    I tried downloading it from the site but it says it's not available, could you send the pdf to me please?
     
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  9. gagate

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    Listen, real sexual transmutation isn't done by retaining semen or sexual intercourse, it's done by completely abstaining from sexual thoughts, theres loss of energy in intercourse even if you retain the semen
     
  10. ASABOVESOBELOW

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    Think about it like turning on a kettle without any water in it... if you are trying to work with moving energy through your system when there is nothing there, it could lead to impairment of those systems, and also in future, you may get used to fact that you are unable to feel your qi energy, and will never grasp the sensations on a concious or subconcious level.

    I personally do my own "home-made" qi gong style excercises, and the feeling of moving qi throughout the body is similar to the eletrical orgasmic feeling, so you really want to have enough energy reserves to be able to feel what is going on in that subtle layer.
     
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    Here are the two books, the second one is the previously classified one, which is more about the scientific studies/implications of external qi energy manifestation and manipulation of matter. The first one is more suited to this journey of recovering essence/health/vitality, and becoming more abundant in it through lifestyle and excercises etc...

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RexBmD6dHKhd4JCInqojXNmiPs0N1Kg9 - Yan Xin: Secrets and Benefits of Internal Qigong Cultivation

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-OKDyUyh0Az8u5s1MqiikeAo9asv0u3_ - Yan Xin Qigong and the Contemporary Sciences

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-fSfDFgkZLIblp2TUptTl90YUk - Folder full of Professor Yan Xin research study papers/publications



    EDIT: I forgot that the "proper" PDF version has most of the pages sideways, if you download it I believe you can rotate it. I also (before they uploaded the PDF) receieved the full document sent to my house in England by the CIA, whereby I photographed every single page in the correct orientation and uploaded it, so you can view that here also;

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-fSfDFgkZLIUkdFaFZWcTkwTjA


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  12. ASABOVESOBELOW

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    Certainly, but not as severe a loss of energy. Of course there are ways of fusing the two energies of Yin and Yang that males and females are both (when in a normal/healthy state) plentifull in, off-setting the loss of ones own energy. But that is it's own practise, and nowhere near as powerful as total celibacy.
     
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    Oh I see, good point
     
  14. Retentionman

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    What would you recommend in order to cultivate energy, and ow many days, before doing it
     
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  15. Retentionman

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    Thank you very much man
     
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    No, there is severe loss, most of energy is wasted during intercourse
     
  17. ASABOVESOBELOW

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    No, definitely more energy is lost during ejaculation (the energy and vital essence that is enough to create an entire new life/bring another soul into this reality/plane of existence.

    For instance in Ancient China there were many practisioners and Emperors who would actually sleep with numerous young girls but not ejeculate, and absorb the females energy to increase their vitality and increase their longevity whilst not wasting there own. This is a very crude and greedy method, but it works to some extent, although the karmic repecussions of it far outweight any benefits of increased life-span/health.

    We can also look to the man Li-Ching Yuen who supposedly lived to 256 years old (he himself claimed only 196, despite birth certificates, and letters from Emperors congratulating him on both his 150th and 200th birthdays, perhaps he had lost track of the years by that point), since the age of around 80-100 he subsided only on water, medicinal herbs, and medicinally infused sake/rice wine, with no real foods beyond that for at least 90-150 years.

    He himself had around 50 wives throughout his life (as he kept outliving them) and over 200 children, many of whom shared his extreme height (over 7ft tall for Chinese people, possibly related to the mummies that kept being found in China and Egypt of tall, white/Caucasian features persons of around 7ft tall or more and with fair or red hair, that I believe are remnants of the Atlantean civilisation that brought advanced knowledge of astrology, architecture, language etc... to the numerous more primitive hunter-gatherer types across the globe from Egypt, to China, to South America etc... and created or were helped to create the huge megalithic structures that far exceed the skill of any of the "later" civilisations of the areas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen
     
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    My personal recommendation would be to research into "jing building foods", things such as shisandra berries, bee pollen, dark/black foods such as olives, grapes, darker meats such as lamb or duck, eggs etc... the problem is that most of these jing building foods are also very warming and stimulating, and thus can lead to noctural emissions if consumed in too high quantities, and too close to sleeping time.

    This is just a crude method to bring your base-building blocks back after expenditure, if you have been 63 days without even wet dream/noctural emission I would go straight into some standing and sitting meditation and some moving meditation in the style of qi gong.

    Some of the most powerful ones I've found are;

    Horse stance, stand with legs 1.5 shoulder widths apart, and try to get your thighs parallel to the ground/flat (Shaolin monks will train by using tea cups on their thighs and trying not to spill the tea, for upto 2 hours straight!) you may need to adjust your hips/back to find a comfortable position where your bones/hips are open and not feeling like they are going to click or have too much pressure on them.

    Hold this position as long as you can (maybe only 30 seconds at first few attempts) then stand up with your legs the same distance apart, head slightly tilted down, and arms infront of your belly, with a slight gap between your armpits and do some slow belly/diaphram breathing with your eyes closed or looking at the tip of your nose. Be as relaxed as possible metally and physically and see if you notice any energy accumilating in your lower body and concentrate on it.

    Activating/tensing your perrenium (same muscle you'd use when stopping taking a piss, PC muscle) during both the horse stance and standing portion increases the intensity and is advised after getting to grips with the basic versions, as I feel like it helps bring the energy up from the lower body up through the spine as it acts as a sort of shut-off gate/dam.

    Once you get that feeling, you can try sitting or lying down meditations, focusing on your lower dantien (a few inches below your belly button/navel) then try moving this sensation up to your pineal gland/third eye/area inbetween your eye brows. This is similar to the microcosmic orbit, although the true microcosmic orbit should be a natural/spontanious phenomona once you've accumilated enough energy.

    Try shaking/wobbling your limbs/body at least once a day to unlock tension and energy stagnation as this can help faciilitate the flow of qi, as although qi is on an energetic level, it is still linked with the physical body, as above, so below... for me one of the truest and most profound statements of all time (along with All the World's a Stage by William Shakespeare, but that is another topic haha).

    I've had incredibly profound experience by breathing in whilst lying down, focusing on my lower dantien/belly area on the in-breathe, then focusing on moving it up to my pineal gland on the exhale, whilst visualising a sort of spiral motion on my pineal gland, before long it would start to tingle and feel like it is getting very warm and vibrating, then a spiralling beam of white light seemed like it was shooting in or out of my pineal gland into infinite space... definitely the most extreme experience I have ever had, I've taken medium doses of psychedellic compounds in the past (I've never had visualisations from them, just subtle change in awareness and more of a qi electric feeling in my body) like psylocibin mushrooms and LSD, and this was far and beyond anything I've ever experienced from them.

    Above all, 4 things are most important for cultivation of energy;

    Diet in the early stages (fasting in the later more advanced stages)
    Avoiding loss of energy (sexual, drugs even caffiene or alcohol should be limited, anger or stress etc...)
    Light physical exersize combined with sitting/standing/moving meditation
    Virtue and good-deeds, trying to do as much good as possible on a daily basis, whether it be helping strangers who are struggling in the street, not killing insects and instead putting them in a cup and throwing them outside or something, being calm and reserved instead of aggressive and reactive in situations etc...


    The absolute minimum time between ejaculating (even through wet dream) and engaging in any sort of energy work, or even physical labour/workouts should be 3 days, preferably 5-7 days. 30 days should bring you back to baseline, and 100 days is the point where you will start being able to turn that essence/energy into a higher form for increased spiritual and mental abilities, including what the Chinese call "Special Human Functions" including physic abilities liked extreme intuition, being able to somewhat predict future events, gauge the character of other persons intent or persona within an instant (some can access these things very easily without cultivation of course), be very creative and quick-witted, coming up with ideas and solutions without any concious thought or effort etc...
     
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  19. Retentionman

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    Actually during these 64 days. I have had 2 nocturnal emissions, the last one exactly 29days ago, do you think it's enough? And also I had been doing testicular breathing excercices even after those 2 emissions, that is working without energy, do you think that harmed me in ay way?

    I'll add it to my reading list

    When you say: "moving it up to the pineal gland" that is, through the spine? Or just directly to the pineal gland no matter the "path" but rather focusing on the end line? And also the spiral motion should be clockwise or anticlockwise? I'm sure I read so ewhere about those spiral movements (33 if I'm not wrong) but forgot the direction.

    Ahh I see, very interesting, I so wish to retain my essence, subconsciously, because I have been very disciplined with my retention, temptations and even thoughts. But those damned nocturnal emmisions feel like a theft, very frustrating.

    Thank you very much for sharing this and for your time man, this is very helpful. I'll do it
     
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    Why or how would this activity be counterproductive in terms of karma?
     

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