I have a backlog of 2 entries… Let me start with Wednesday. In the afternoon, I had a date with a Serbian girl. I didn’t have high expectations of this date because when I took her digits, she said that she had a boyfriend and that she just wanted to meet new people. But I decided to set up a date anyway as I thought it wouldn’t be bad to have a socializing experience beyond street sets. We went to a bar under a bridge, recommended by Kowe. I took her to the first floor where the logistics were good [seats where you can sit next to each other]. We talk and at a certain point I sit next to her. I tried to escalate and kiss her but it becomes clear pretty fast that this won’t lead to a romantic inferno. In light of this, we touch a bit on the topic whether men and women can be friends, and I say it’s rather difficult because of the physical attraction that men experience. She says that she finds it unfortunate that men only want to hang out because of the physical aspect. It’s not thay we get into an argument or something. I say that it’s cool if she’s not interested. Afterwards, we walk a bit in the city and then we split ways. Overall, it was a nice interaction and you could say that I was state tapping her to prepare for the other date later that day… In the evening, I had a date with a Montenegrin girl. Really hot, she’s a news presenter actually. She was one of the first approaches I did when arriving in Podgorica and I remember she called my approach « refreshing ». I take her to the same bar at 8 pm and this time, I feel that there’s a spark. I sit next to her and when I touch her hands, I feel that she reciprocates. She talked about politics of her country a few times because of her job. It didn’t really annoy me because it weren’t the topics you would typically hear from an educated girl in her 20s [Trump, feminism and the like] but it was rather about the Balkans [how the Montenegrins relate to the Serbs, how the Albanians are perceived in the Balkans, etc.]. At a certain point she asks me what I think about Montenegrin girls. I ask her about dating life in Podgorica. She says it’s non-existent. She admits that she likes Northern men. After I kiss her, she says « That was nice. ». I suggest to go for a walk, we go back to the city centre. When we are close to my apartment, I invite her to my place to chill a bit. She says that she thinks we aren’t there yet [in terms of the stage of dating]. I say to her that nothing has to happen, and so she agrees to come over. When she’s at my place, I decide not to escalate it too fast but rather just show her around first. We sit on the couch and I put on the tv, finding out that I have access to a Netflix account. I put on some Seinfeld. We have intense make-out sessions on the couch, but whenever I put my hand under her pullover, she says « Let’s not go there. ». Althoug nothing happened besides making out, it was still quite an overwhelming experience to have a hot girl kissing and touching you on your couch. So yesterday I decided to rent a car through my current landlord and explore the country a bit. In the morning, I go to the supermarket to buy some eggs. I see a cute girl waiting in the line behind me. I feel that I need to try talk to her. So when I get out of the supermarket, I wait and approach her when she got out. She almost directly introduces herself and suggests that I take her number. We have a tentative plan to meet on Sunday. I go back to my apartment and a friend of my landlord brings the car. I then drive to Rijeka Crnojevica, where I have a beautiful panormaic view on a river with mountains in the distance… the road was quite scary to drive on. I was thinking « if I drive 10 cms to the left, I’m dead ». Driving by yourself through these green mountains whilst listening to music has something very relaxing. I then drive to Cetinje, but when I arrive it starts raining. I visit a monastery, where I talked a bit with an Orthodox priest. I have a good meal and decide to go drive to the Njegos masoleum. Normally you have a nice view there, but it was very misty when I was there. I then continue to Kotor… when I arrive there I do an indirect approach on a girl, asking her where the centre is. Turns out to be a Russian tourist who travels on her own. She is 27 but I was first in dubio whether she was even older than 18 years old… I suggest to grab a coffee and she agrees. We walk a bit in Kotor and then go to a bar where I have a juice and she a tea. I tell her that I want to visit some other towns in the Kotor bay and that she can join me if she wants, which she does. We take the car to Perast, but it’s pounding rain. I walk there for a few minutes whilst she wants to stay in the car. We then drive to a little town to take the ferry to the other side. When we are in the car on the ferry, I escalate a bit and we kiss. We then drive to Tivat with a famous yacht port where we walk a bit. During the whole interaction, I don’t have the feeling that we are really building rapport and making a connection. I drive back to Kotor and I kiss her again when she leaves. I then drive back to Podgorica and get myself a nice meal in a traditional restaurant. I do a few more approaches and have a long chat with a girl, although she didn’t want to give her number because she has a boyfriend. Yesterday I did 5 approaches, Wednesday I did 10. TOTAL 76 approaches 2 i-dates 2 dates 2 kisses [I will not count the amount of personal digits anymore]. This post took me more than an hour to write… it’s not easy to get everything on paper and recount every story with captivating details and witty hijinks. I’m doing it through my phone. The past two days have been quite eventful and if the tally ends here, than I’m perfectly fine with it.
So today I decided to stay in Podgorica. I realize I am - unintentionally - staying in the city whenever the wheather is great and doing excursions when it’s raining… oh well… I didn’t do anything special. I took a bath. I went to the mall and bought some clothes. Went back to my apartment and took a nap. I also got a haircut. As a general remark I think my lifestyle hasn’t been too unhealthy for the past week. I didn’t do one of the following things: - drink alcohol - consume nicotine - consume caffeine - watch porn - have desserts/confectionaries or fried foods like French fries … whilst it’s way easier to indulge in these things when travelling. The only thing I deem as unhealthy is that I’m eating a lot of bread, which I see as inflammatory food with zero nutritional value. I try to steer clear from eating « bureks » but I usually eat the bread that is being served in the restaurants. Although I’ve been avoiding fried food, I’m probably consuming seed oils as I’m always eating out and I know they use it in almost everything, sadly enough… Another point of attention is that I’m checking my phone like a neurotic to check if I received « pings from my leads », which screws my attention span and is only cultivating a digital addiction. I did 10 approaches today and the last one led to an instant date. The girl was a psychology student and during the set, it suddenly became clear that she didn’t have anything to do as she kept talking and talking. I took her to the same bar where I had my previous dates. We talk about various topics like our home countries, our studies, etc. I sit next to her and do the usual kino moves. But when I go for the kiss, she says that she is slow and traditional. She doesn’t believe in one-time casual dating. Fair enough I’d say. I think I will probably do one last excursion tomorrow. The girl I kissed on Wednesday is going to her home town this weekend. She’s coming back on Sunday. I texted her that she can let me know if she wants to meet on Sunday. I guess I didn’t want to be too needy as I already I tried to ask her out yesterday where I also revealed I’m leaving on Monday. To be seen if she’ll put her money where her mouth is… but I’m not getting my hopes stacked up. TOTAL 86 approaches 3 i-dates 2 dates 2 kisses
Writing this post on some French eurodisco song from the 80s. « Voyage, voyage » So in the morning I decided to leave Podgorica again. I bus it up to Kolasin and take another bus to the national park of Biogradska Gora. The walk up to the lake took me 40 minutes and then walking around the lake maybe an hour. What a nice retreat… Of course I found myself thinking a lot about game and the girls I met during this trip. I didn’t do any direct approaches today. Throughout my trip to the national park I maybe did 4-5 indirect approaches where I asked a genuine question about the bus. In the beginning of this thread, I would have counted it. The thing is that I was interested in the girls I asked these questions to, so I will consider 3 approaches. I arrive back in Podgorica between 16h-17h, but the city seems dead. It rains and you literally hear crickets in the main street. Few opportunities to approach but I don’t go into hunt mode ultimately. I go to my apartment, zone out for a bit and go to the restaurant I’m always going to. When I’m finished with my meal, it’s pounding rain like crazy, so I decide to stay a bit more… and have 2 desserts. I guess it’s OK because I didn’t have any bread today and one of the desserts was an apple stuffed with walnuts. I did experience an urge to buy some potato chips afterwards [some sort of chaser effect] when I was in the supermarket but I resisted. Not sure what I will do tomorrow. Yeah I can do some daygame but I’m getting a bit worn out… The big difference with my trip to Warsaw and Riga was that I was there with a daygame wing, so it was quite easy to get into that approach headspace. You see another man do an approach and see him getting rejected… well, you take all of it less serious. When you’re by yourself it’s just you and your thoughts that are trying to sabotage you. There is no hand on your shoulder that can comfort you with « It’s all’right man. It doesn’t matter. » Despite all that, I’m quite satisfied with the amount of approaches I’ve done during the past 8 days, given the fact that I’m just here by myself. Solo travel/daygame can be an uphill battle. Having bouts of depression is not uncommon with this lifestyle. I didn’t really have any significant mood swings during this trip. It also really helped to do these daytime trips where I explored the country which allowed me to put my mind on other things. Yeah, sure, if I didn’t do that I maybe could have added another 50 approaches to the final tally and maybe the odds of fully fledged intimacy would have been greater, but would that have been worth it missing out on seeing what Montenegro really has to offer? TOTAL 89 approaches 3 i-dates 2 dates 2 kisses
Trigger warning as a heads up - this post contains sexual language. So I guess yesterday was characterized by the sheer contrast of feeling quite low throughout the day, followed by a drastic turnaround in the evening… So the day itself wasn’t special, I stayed in Podgorica. My day consisted out of walking around a bit, reading in my book whilst catching some sun. I tried to approach a crossing girl on a bridge, but she blanked me. Later I do a direct approach on a girl who said she was going to the office on Sunday because of deadlines. She « hooked » by asking me where I’m from and what I do here, but it was rather out of curiosity about where a tourist would get the idea from to visit Podgorica. I eat two bureks, which are some oily pastry snacks from the Balkans. This give me a bit of a late afternoon crash so I take a nap in my apartment. I must admit that my state wasn’t great throughout the day. I initially had a date planned yesterday with a girl I met on Thursday. But I was under the impression that I got blocked - just one WhatsApp tick… The news girl I kissed on Wednesday also seemed to have fallen off the radar. But I manage to reframe it all by putting it in a more realstic perspective. At the end of the day, this is all trivial. Am I really « crushed » by seeing all my leads die on the vine, or am I merely disappointed? If World War II was « terrible », can you describe flaking as « terrible »? No, at worst, it’s an inconvenience. Resist the temptation to exaggerate situations. Relax your standards. I went for a walk in a big park on a hill next to the city that gives a nice view on mountains. I watch the sunset and feel way better. I did maybe 2 indirect approaches but I didn’t really commit. I finish an interesting book on caffeine and read on in Allen Carr’s Easyway on digital addiction. I sense I’m being consumed by digital overkill. I’m trapped by the belief that checking my phone is a source of pleasure or comfort, whilst in reality, it isn’t. The book inspires me to decide to NOT check my phone when I was in a restaurant having dinner. And I felt more centered, my train of thought more linear. I go back home and watch some TV. I suddenly receive a ping from the girl with whom I initially planned a date with, saying sorry that she didn’t answer because of some celebration. She asks me if I still would like to meet. I try to set up the logistics but she wants to meet somewhere out of the centre because she has an obligation at 21h30 somewhere. This doesn’t seem sound, so I call it off and we will normally meet today in the afternoon instead. A few minutes later, I receive a ping from the news girl I had a date with on Wednesday. Look, at that point, I didn’t find myself in a crushed state anymore… but getting these two unexpected pings did give me an abrupt euphoric high, feeling almost like I had a line of cocaine or something… The girl asks me if it would be inapproriate to ask me if I’m free tonight. I say it’s ok, and so we meet later that evening in a bar. She looks great… long brown hair, tender waist, big dark eyes, cute face. She’s wearing high heels. We catch up in the bar on various topics, we make out a few times. We stay there for maybe an hour. She comes back to my place, which is maybe a 3 minute walk from the bar. I have a map of Montenegro on my kitchen table and I show her which towns I’ve visited etc. We go on the couch and I put on The Deal, a Seinfeld episode. The first scene involves a conversation between Jerry and Elaine, speculating about having a sexual relationship. They talk about their last time having sex, Jerry says something in the nature of « I have a vague recollection », and then I say « Yeah, I have a vague recollection too ». The girl asks me when was my last time having sex, and I ask her. This scene brings about a sexual tension in a humorous way. We start making out and I take off her top. We go to the bedroom. I must say that in the beginning, I encountered difficulties getting hard. Maybe I was putting myself under pressure and giving myself a hard time with internal messages like « F#*k, will PIED really ruin this? ». I remember that I didn’t watch porn from June to September and that I didn’t encounter these issues with the girls I met during that period. I did relapse with P a few times in September/October, and this might have had a negative effect. I tell the girl that I need some time with new people and she comforts me saying it’s ok. We are kissing heavily on the bed and I finger her, she is really wet. I generally focus on the sensations of touching her skin, whilst not fixating my mind on my erection. And this helps. I wrap it up and we then have sex for what I think was more than 20 minutes. Afterwards she stays a bit. We lay together in the bed, but she leaves soon as it was already around midnight. My day took quite a 180 degrees turn and I guess that I had both of best worlds with this trip by exploring Montenegro and meeting a girl. But the fact of the matter is that I would have been OK with it if my Montenegro trip ended without this erotic adventure. Throughout the day I was musing on what I should write on daygame in Montenegro… it’s not a bad place, but probably not suited for a « Junior Approacher ». Some closing thoughts might follow soon. 94 approaches 3 i-dates 2 dates 2 kisses 1 lay
To me it seems like you are encountering a lot of last minute resistance. I wont pretend I dont have the same problem but it is usually a result of your approach. If you failed to make her feel comfort and trust during the date, then she will have second thoughts about having sex with you. Try to slow don the interactions a bit maybe? Spend around 10 hours getting to know her, preferably by bouncing locations several times before you propose sex. If she senses that you are only after sex, she will likely panic and leave in a rush even if she likes you.
I have been thinking about counting all interactions, with men included. I wont though but I am often finding myself testing some openers on men before trying them out on women. It is easier, less nerve wrecking and also makes you seem less try-hard, especially in the club. And other men can be great allies down the road too. They understand your problems and if you want to learn how to pick up women you have to ask a dude that has good game to show you the way.
I am back I fell into a depression after I broke my arm. I couldnt work out, had to drop out of almost all my topics at uni. Last night was my first session in 2 months. It was a big party and probably a bit too loud for my taste. I opened a set while standing in line. I was pretty rusty. It was a 4-set with two guys and two girls. One of the guys asked me my age. I made him guess as high as he dared. I exaggerated a lot and he asked me if I am really a vampire which is a frame I played along with. I did tell him my real age but only after he guessed me to be 45. Sometimes I tell people my real age right away but I dont really want to give it away easy. I am 31 and old in a student environment. My goal yesterday was to open 12 sets. I am not sure what my number ended up at as I prefer not to count the really bad ones. At the beginning of the night, I was paralyzed by approach anxiety. I was happy with myself that I didnt just talk myself out of showing up. I regretted not taking some painkillers before going out. My neck is killing me. I have decided to invest in myself by paying for treatment. Went to a pain clinic last week and I have chiropractor appointments lined up. It gets slightly worse when I am anxious and it is hindering me in functioning 100%. Anyways, back to the sarging: After letting my nerves settle for about an hour and just strolling around, drinking two beers I started thinking about openers. I did work the room so to speak by the end of the night. Over doing the negging to the point of offending girls. I sat down with a bunch of dudes and tried a rather weird opener: " Have you ever heard of the banana peel paradox?" I knew one of the guys at the table. He remembered me. I did have some conversation with them but they basically blew me out. What I didnt know was that the other guys hated my "friend" and by association they didnt want much to do with me neither. I sat for 20 minutes or so and chatted a little back and forth. Was a little pissed that they seemed like such douchebags but I just left. No excuse needed. Not counting that one anyways. I did the "Nice nail polish, is it real?" opener 3 times. Got all positive reactions. All three girls said "yes, I made it myself". I followed up all times with "so no stylist was involved? Well, then I am genuinely impressed. I did this in one 3-set with only hot girls. Two of them were 9s or 10s. Got them all somewhat involved in a conversation with me but not for very long. The problem were that it was right around closing time and they were leaving. I asked to join them for the afterparty and they told me "sure, lets go". I lost them though and never found the after party. I opened a 2-set were a guy was talking with a girl. I assumed he was hitting on her but it was in close proximity to my last set and I only needed to turn my head and comment her rings. I asked her if she knew what it means to have rings on those exact fingers. I told her a gang of football supporters recently got arrested in the Vatican for showing the metal sign. Her body language shifted and even though she was still talking with the other guy, her body was pointed towards me. From there a lone woman was strolling past me. I stopped her and started talking with her. But I gave off too much "I dont actually give a shit vibes". It was intentional but I overdid it. She leaned towards the wall and was playing with her necklace while talking with me for a few minutes. She asked me if I was in any fraternity and I told her "yes, by accident". I told her I was responsible for finding sponsors and jokingly asked her to be my sponsor. The joke didnt go down well and I went from charming to sleazy real quick. She left after that. Then I chatted up a hot bouncer and asked her how her job was like. I have been a bouncer myself so I know exactly how it is like but I pretended I didnt know much. I chatted up a hot dancer from the show. I asked her who she was and she was low key offended and told me she was dancing at "sexy panda" on scene. I told her I have poor eye sight and didnt see anything which she laughed at. I was obviously lying but she was testing me if I could handle the heat. I guess I passed that little shit test but she also was about to leave because the place as closing down. Another encounter while ordering beer. I gave some recommendations to a few girls that were discussing what to order. Then another one where I told a girl she looked familiar and guessed her name. I guessed it wrong. Nothing much came of that interaction. Then went to the afterparty. Opened a 2-set and a 4-set with only girls. It was easier to talk without the loud music present. Then my last interaction lasted for 2 hours. It was with a girl and her boyfriend. I didnt attempt to pick her up but we had a genuinely good conversation for a good while. I left at 3 am and realized I had missed out on several hot girls sitting outside. I called it a night and walked home. I cant get them all. Another thing I have done is that I have done a strict Ketogenic diet, I am about a week on Nofap. I have lost 10kg and dont consider myself fat anymore. I have deep cleaned my apartment and focused a lot on self care. Worked on improving my skin, sleep quality, neck pain etc. It is all compounding and contributing to me feeling better about myself. Now I low key believe that I can attract at least a few women just by being present.
Going out tonight. Less drinking than last time I hope. I am trying to spend about an hour a day on preparing routines. I have traveled a bit and just need to get into the habit of recalling stuff when I need it. I use something called the memo method. It was developed in ancient Greek and used by public speakers to remember long talks. I recommend checking it out. Makes it a lot easier to use Canned material. It is like having a mental notebook. Basically our brain remembers better in pictures than words and numbers. Walk a familiar path in your mind and place images of what you want to remember along your path. I am going to attempt using this as a routine tonight also since it is pretty cool.
Wow, i love this thread I was trying lately to do some approaches but since I'm living in a middle eastern country I'm afraid that it well be hard for me. There are a lot of peaple who date here but I don't know I'm always afraid of trying and I don't know where to start. What are the best places to approach girls and i want to know your advices on how to manage my approach anxiety cause it's killing me i think i have social Anxiety in general due to porn use so what do you think about that guys Sorry for my english
40/1000 I did a lot more approaches than this but I dont put night game in as high regard as day game. Night game is a lot more fast paced and with a lower success rate. I did prepare a couple openers for tonight but it mostly went out the window and I found myself improvising a lot. I faced a lot of rejections but in all the chaos I also had a few good conversations. The first good interaction I want to talk about is when I challenged a girl to "leg wrestling". Basically arm wrestling but with our legs. It was a pretty stupid idea but she accepted the challenge. Afterwards she asked for my name and seemed pretty interested. I threw out a neg "you strike me as a farmer". Probably too harsh and she looked at me and said "ouch". I probably shouldn't have negged her at all. She liked me already. I met her in line later in the night. I noticed she had a heavy accent and asked her where she was from. She told me "South Africa" and seemed embarrassed by it for some reason. I had a short back and forth conversation about south Africa. I did minimal touching. I was an idiot for strolling around the whole night club and talking to everyone else. But I was unprepared. I didnt expect anyone to actually warm up to me that easily and especially not someone that attractive. Next girl I got into a conversation about the butterfly effect. It was actually one of my prepared routines but it was really easy to drop that topic because she had a butterfly tattoo on her forearm. She told me she totally believed in it and we ended up in a long ish conversation. I also asked her about her thoughts on the Mandela effect which she had heard about but thought was a bunch of bullshit. Her friends tried to drag her away multiple times but she refused to leave with them. She complained to me that her friends sucks and eventually gave in to their demands. Then I started a pretty good conversation with a girl by just reaching out my hand as if to ask for her name but instead I proceeded to beat her in thumb wrestling. It worked out pretty well and cracked right trough her initial scepticism. I tried the same thing on her friend a little earlier and she ignored me but after she saw what I did, she too started talking. She told me she really had to pee but that she didnt dare leaving because of the long line. I told her "You better not, there are puke everywhere and a guy is sleeping in the pissoir". She laughed and replied "yea, because I am totally going into the guys restroom". I continued with "yea, I knew you where one of those girls blahblah". It was a fun conversation with some light teasing back and forth but I eventually ran out of steam. I used the "nice fingernails, are they real?" opener multiple times. About 3 of them got a positive response but the rest of them felt a little forced. I rushed into a few sets and crashed and burned. Probably got flat out ignored about 10 times but I wasnt counting. Talked with a Chinese girl for about 10 minutes. I wasnt attracted to her at all. I was really just trying to get her friends attention somehow but it didnt work out. A lot of guys recognized me as the guy that broke his arm during arm wrestling. I got a bunch of attention for it and showed off my scar a couple times. It seemed like mostly positive attention but some girls went into auto rejection mode because of it. All in all it seemed to boost my appearance a little because I was mostly talking with someone and rarely seen alone. Some guys also invited me into their sets which made it feel like cheating. My goal for the night was to open 12 sets. I overshot my target but I dont know how many sets it actually was. Many of them was a poor performance and in total I had about 5 "good" interactions. I didnt expect to have any sort of success at all tonight and was caught a little off guard by my relative success in attracting a few girls. I failed to capitalize on it and was a little like a dog chasing cars. I didnt know what to actually do if I ever caught one.
I want to take the train to the city tonight. Probably not going to for several reasons but I probably need to expand my horizons. The local night club is one of the most difficult venues I can think of. It is loud and fast paced. No quiet zones. It is definitively possible there too but it isnt ideal. I have organized a student movie night tomorrow and I think that event may be good. It is more laid back than the club and I might be able to have a few chats. I expect around 20 people, mostly girls to show up. That is the main reason I probably wont go out tonight. I dont want to risk being too tired to go tomorrow. I also don't expect to be doing game the first few days in the city. I have no clue where the good clubs are. I also need to get going with day game. It requires more balls in my opinion but I also suspect it is somewhat easier. Edit: I messaged a girl about making a cake for the event. She have been suggesting it for a week now but no one really took her up on it. I suggested we bake at my place tomorrow since I have a stove. I don't expect her to show up because she doesn't really know me that well.
41/1000 One interaction today. Just some small talk and it didnt even occur to me to take it further. There are coming a few people over to my place tomorrow to bake a cake for the movie night so all of tomorrow will go towards preparing and having a movie night with people from class. I expect to have a couple interactions tomorrow. Without being too try-hard. These are people I will see again multiple times so no need to burn any bridges. I expect to talk to at least 5 tomorrow so that is my objective. Talking to 5 girls.
In general, avoid places like bars, nightclubs etc. if you are struggling with lust. However, if you're looking for a lustful encounter then those places are perfect!
43/1000 I am counting 2 encounters from yesterday. The girl I invited over to bake actually showed up. We baked a cake and watched a horror movie. I did have 4 approaches in total but some of the approaches at the club are just so bad that I dont want to count them. I tried " nice purse, is it an expensive brand?" Twice. It was a total failure both times. I think both girls said something like "thats a super weird question, why are you even talking with me?". The trick seems to be to have an excuse to talk with girls but not make it blatantly obvious that you are hitting on her. Some of it boils down to body language but some openers are just really bad. Asking about her purse seems to be in the really bad category since there is no way a man is actually interested in a girls purse.
Girls always let you know when they’re interested in you. All you need to do is be patient and wait for her signal. Approaching them before this signal inevitably ends in rejection.
Going out I have to rip the Band Aid off and just go to the halloween party tonight. I have been really tired today. Slept almost all day. It is freezing cold outside and snowing. The party started an hour ago. I need to practice showing up more often. I am committed to spending 10-15 hours a week on honning my social skills. Considering a taxi to make it easier for myself. How long I stay is secondary as long as I show up.
50/1000 I went to a Halloween party tonight. The music was a bit loud as usual. I didnt manage to count my approaches tonight neither but I have a few memorable ones. I commented a girls shirt and got a conversation out of it. I hugged her. Later in the night she asked to bum a cigarette. I told her I am kind but not stupid. I told her I could give her one if she beat me at thumb wrestling. We did rock, paper schizzors. She won and fair enough. I would have gotten a drink if I won. I dont actually smoke but I figured it is a good idea to carry some around. She complained about a dude she liked at the party and that she isnt a one night stand kind of girl. I told her to forget about him. She flirted with me and told me that she likes me more. While my opener was good and I succeeded in attracting her, I didnt follow up and she eventually left the whole party. Next girl I asked what she thinks of my beard. She told me she was quite into men with a full beard. Her friend also tuned in and they agreed that they like my beard and suggested I keep it that way. I shared some info about the function of body hair, that it is actually more to scare away other guys than to attract girls. That was overall a good conversation and I think easy, playful openers does the trick. Stuff that doesnt seem too try hard. The beard opener is something I will try again. My mind went blank today so I didnt remember to use the openers I had prepared. I will get a notebook for them actually. Some of them are actually quite bad but the absurd does work sometimes. I asked a girl what kind of animals I would like to cross. It is a random conversation starter but it worked and we had a cool conversation. It didnt work the other times I tested it though. Another opener I did was with a dice. I manipulated the dice and asked her to throw it. She got a six two times in a row and was super excited. She wanted to show it to all her friends but then they only got 1s or 2s. I asked one of them to think about a number between 1 and 4. She guessed 3. Then between 4 and 10. She guessed 7. It may seem totally random but the chance of her picking 3 and 7 is actually over 50÷. They were really impressed. I talked with most of the pretty girls there before I left. I think I had a good shot at least twice but I dont touch them enough. The hug was the most action I got tonight. I get to the point where I can hook a girls attention and appear interesting for a few minutes but then I loose my steam. I need to practice a lot more. I am still testing out material and I have just roughly figured out what works and what sucks. I need to add in more touching. In a party setting, stuff needs to happen quickly. I have a couple physical routines but I need to remember to use them. I also need to test out everything I have decided to test out. Some of them seem really stupid and they probably are but I wont know for sure until I have tried them.
51/1000 One approach today. I was invited to a quiz by some guys from class. A lot of girls there too but not ideal circumstances for approaching. I was mostly smalltalking with the dudes at my table. A random dude came over and told me I seem like a cool guy. I had a short chat with a girl on the table next to me. Even though I didnt really do any proper approaches, I gained 4 new acquaitances. We will do another quiz in mid November. I also have a ticket to a show tomorrow. My goal tomorrow is to do 12 approaches. By the time I hit 100 approaches I think I am reasonably skilled at night game. But I still think I need 1000+ to master it. I also want to prioritize day game soon ish. Its winter so people in general are a little closed off but there are still opportunities.
60/1000 I probably hit my goal of 12 approaches tonight. Night game at the local student pub is brutal and unforgiving. Maybe I am too harsh on myself. For some reason I am super popular among the dudes. One of the best looking and most popular dude at campus has decided that I am the Myth and the legend and all his followers therefore think the same. I guess that ticks of one box (leader of men) but I dont particularly like the attention. My game was better tonight but still far away from good. The first hour or so I was just settling in. I had bad anxiety before going out. I then started approaching. The first thing I did basically was to open one of the hottest chicks in the club. She was pretty drunk so I ended up shooting her down in front of her friends. I was way harsher than necessary and word got around quick. I guess I was stupid since she was into me. Much later in the night I could have approached her again but I didnt. I opened two sets while standing in line. 6 girls in total. I used a pretty cool opener "nice shoes... I think they are the same size as mine... 48? I used it 5+ times and always got a positive response. Both sets while standing in line went quite well but I never went past shit chat. Then I met the damn alfa male at school and he introduced me to all his friends which where basically the whole school. He asked me to show some of my rizz with the girls. I didnt really want to perform on command but I tapped the closest good looking girl on the shoulder and asked her if she knew about the Roman handshake. I then invented the Italian and the French handshake on the spot. It included some physical escalation and got an ok response. But nothing that struck me as "she is into me". He continued to sheer me on for maybe an hour. I think he sort of cock blocked me by making it so obvious but I tried to play with it. He pushed me into some situations that I might not have went for otherwise. I did the ring routine on two girls but just stopped after a few minutes of physical escalation. They were pretty enough but I didnt feel like it. I tried an opener I read about on some forum which goes like this "what color is a fridge?" Then "what does the cow drink?" I did it maybe 5 times and it performed pretty bad. Got one cool response and the rest was just "what? I cant hear you" or similar. It is a loud night club so if the openers are overly complicated, they seem to fall flat. I also suspect that this particular night club is about as difficult as it gets. The learning curve is steep. I did a lot better than last time but still far away from any breaktrough. It is also partly the way I approach things. I dont want to get laid so I dont really try. I need to prioritize nofap so that I get this inner drive to make stuff happen.
bro 20 approaches and 0 numbers? Those are atrocious stats. Where are you located? I went out saturday, I made 6 approaches and I got blown out by 3 girls simply cuz they perceived I was looking for a romantic purpose, 2 of them were indian girls and they dont date in their culture. Out of the other 3, 1 was ugly and i was just winging for my friend. I was having an off day cuz i had a gigantic migraine killing me but still got 2 numbers, set up 2 dates and 1 of them is a hookup. I legit asked her to fuck and she said not today then gave me her number with full name. Turns out shes a doctor when i googled her name, wtf. Lol. Its thanksgiving break so idk if anyone will respond but we did set up all that. Ill text next week. But, those are supposed to your stats. 20 approaches and 0 numbers is crazy. Something aint right. You gotta better ur approach.
