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Is there really such thing as a non-addicted porn watcher?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by chanteur49, May 2, 2017.

Is there such thing as a non-addicted porn viewer?

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  1. chanteur49

    chanteur49 Fapstronaut

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    In the past, I've heard kids around me seemingly boast about their porn watching abilities, mention their favorite porn star, and talk about their favorite website. I, on the other hand, would never do this. Since I'm addicted and therefore know how bad porn really is, I am not inclined to speak in public about my history with it. Therefore, it's fair to say that these people don't view porn as a threat to their well being and are not addicted.
    Can some porn watchers simply not be addicted?
     
  2. GG2002

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    I think someone can occasionally view porn and not get addicted yes. Just like some people drink and are not alcoholics or take painkillers but don't get addicted. I do think use of porn even if you are not addicted is damaging to your relationship if you are in one though.
     
  3. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    Publically, there is some debate on this. The porn producers surely want to downplay the idea of it being addictive and a bad, as they don't want negative stigma. We do see in things like alcohol that not all are addicted.

    Cigarettes were once considered fine, and now they are nearly gone.

    Time will tell. There are certainly those of us (myself included) who believe porn is generally bad. It's bad for the users, it's bad for the actors.
     
  4. Because of the amount of dopamine released through experiencing porn, exposure to this in long term periods of time will eventually cause an addiction. If a person has an extremely busy kind of life where they have almost no time to PMO then I guess they won't develop an addiction to it, especially if they are very sexually active with someone.
     
  5. YngwieWanksteen

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    After reading what porn can do to people on these forums, like making guys who are heterosexual get all the way into transgendered person or gay porn, I feel there's not much I can say is not possible anymore. And for me that goes both ways.

    I think non-addicted viewers must exist.
     
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  6. GG2002

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    I think I would compare those who don't get addicted to someone who tries to smoke a few cigarettes or the person who takes a pain pill and it does not help with the pain and makes them feel sick. The reason people can occasionally watch porn is because it does not take hold of them the way it does others they don't get the same feeling from it the same dopamine high. So they can take it or leave it or they just don't enjoy it. I'm the kind of person that smokes a cigarette and says ick why would anyone do that but someone else is like this is awesome I need more. Or maybe I enjoy drinking a glass of wine once in awhile but if I don't oh well. Someone else can't stop and must have it. Certain people have the propensity to become addicted to things. People that may view porn on occasion just don't get the same hit or feeling. Many get bored with it and want the real thing like why am I sitting here alone doing this I need to go find an actual woman? I do think more research needs to be done on this issue for sure.
     
  7. Fightthedevil

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    No,They Are more Addicted Than You Think.PORN has taken over their brains,unlike yours,and numbed their ability to discriminate what is harmful and good for them.When You Realize That Smoking Is Bad For You,You Start To Try To Quit,You Smoke Relatively Less Everyday,Trying to quit,does this makes you more addicted or less addicted?
    There Are People whom i know (several of them) who have broken out of this addiction and been clean like for a 3 years or so,my best friend is an example,he got out of depression by Nofap,while he was still here he helped me alot but now he has moved to another country.Anyways,no,there is no such thing in my opinion as "Non-Addicted Porn Viewer".You Can Say that person who has just started to watch porn is not addicted but eventually he will,you know that,we couldn't get enough of it when we started and now here we are fighting a war among ourselves.If We Watch One Video of Porn,Only One,And don't touch ourselves,with how much assurance can anyone say that they didn't again watched porn on the same day,i bet 99 people out of 100 would say they did and eventually PMO'ed,This Shows Addicted And Compulsive Behaviour.It Is Bullshit that people can watch it occasionally,no one ever got satisfied by watching 1 video per 4 days for example.I Hope You Understand My Point.
     
  8. KeZhengHao

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    Yeah I think it comes down to HOW addictive the dopamine hit is. And while I think some people don't get the same dopamine hit as others and so might not get addicted in the same way - I think the person who gets NO dopamine hit is extremely rare. While cigarettes and alcohol creates a different effect in each person based on their chemical make-up etc that may just make them sick or disinterested on consumption, everyone functions on Dopamine, so everyone can be addicted directly to it. That may be an oversimplification, but that's how I see it.
     
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  9. r8js

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    smoking occasionally and not addicted
    drinking occasionally and not addicted
    having sex occasionally and not addicted

    is that really possible ? HOW ?

    i have seen many people , they do bad things and stuffs and not addicted to it at all . HOW ? HOW ? HOW ?
     
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  10. Expose the so-said non addicted porn-watchers to the level of anguish, self-sabbotage and overall detriment that most of those of us that are so-said addicted to it... and I highly doubt that any mind can stay "non-addicted" while experiencing the SAME volume, frequency and quality of pmo-ing and the various unhealthy reasons that lead us there in the first place.

    Tldr... although there could be exceptions (asexual people)... I believe that "non-addicts" simply haven't/don't experience pmo on the level that addicts do. Let a non-addict stand in an addict's shoes... We'll see how it ends. Imho.
     
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  11. There are people who don't get addicted because they consume it in a healthy manner.
    My cousin and his wife watch porn together. They have boundaries set so that it doesn't become unhealthy and they do have a healthy married life. They consume porn as 'adult entertainment for couples' and not for the rush of it.
    Since many of us here associate P with MO, it has a negative effect. We reach a stage where we can't even get it up without P, that's when you are addicted.
     
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  12. Buzz Lightyear

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    Sure, but watching porn is hardly in the same category as having a cigarette... or a nice cold beer on a hot day. Over and above it being possibly addictive, we should consider it just plain wrong. That is how you will influence your twelve year old that viewing porn may be detrimental to his or her development.

    Of course many think this is being 'judgmental'. It is certainly exercising rational judgement.
     
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  13. GG2002

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    Maybe but I think what you are doing is comparing porn to heroin or coke. Drugs like those will pretty much addict anyone with constant use. So if someone strapped me down and forced fed me heroin my body would become addicted because of a physical response. But the only way I would get addicted is if someone strapped me down and did that. See the difference is people with addictive tendencies don't need to be strapped down they would say wow that first hit was awesome let me keep on doing that and even when negative consequences come about they won't stop. So I suppose if someone was forced to watch porn daily it's plausible they would also become addicted but that would not be because of their own choosing. If you never make the choice to continue watching porn at an addictive level then you never get to the addictive phase. But something about an addicts brain causes them to continue and others not to. I am female but I've watched plenty of porn over the course of my lifetime and it did nothing for me. I've also tried drugs, smoking etc and they did nothing for me. There are also many many other men who are not addicted and able to watch. Just like food addicts. Most of us can indulge once in awhile but we don't do it all the tim because we know the harm it can cause. So maybe could eat a tray of brownies one day which would give me a dopamine high but I don't do it the next day. A food addict keeps doing it even if they feel ill even if they get so large they can't move. Both people get a high so why does one person stop and another not? Certain people by nature have a dopamine sensitivity and when you view the brains of addicts you see it. So I'm not saying that everyone does not get the dopamine high but that some get more some get less. And the non addict appreciates porn for what it's worth but turns away from whatever high it gives them because other things in life give them better highs. Like I said the non addict brain would say why am I sitting at home watching porn for hours a day when I could be out doing something that makes me much happier. The addict brain says wow this high is like something I have never felt before this is going to be my main priority it gives me more pleasure than anything else. I think it is part genetics for sure and PMO addiction has some unique emotional issues that imo bring people to it, emotional unavailablity in general, insecurities as well as mental health conditions that cause many other addictions ADD, OCD, bipolar etc. In the end porn is not going anywhere it's here to stay and l think the medical community needs to start spreading the word. Because no one knows for sure unless they had an addictive past if they will be the One who gets addicted or not. Many men just think watching porn daily is normal and have no clue that it could become addictive. Most don't find out until they have a relationship and things don't work right in bed and they try to stop but can't.
     
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  14. KeZhengHao

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    I agree with what you say, and I think there are cases of people with extreme genetics that make getting addicted and getting off of the "drug" much harder. But I think those cases are more rare than not. I think a lot of the people on this site are similar to our rat friends presented in this video. Through circumstances outside of their control whether it be in youth or a rough start in life they found themselves outside of the ideal setting. Getting the ideal setting is a lifetime pursuit that requires friend making, economic intelligence, etc etc - which is one reason why personal improvement is so crucial in this process. I agree - there are plenty of people who can eat a whole pan of brownies and never do it again because despite the high it made them feel gross. But, what about someone who just went through a break-up, or started a new job in a new city, or was suffering from some other form of duress. Using food to cope may effect them in the same way. I don't think genetics should be a reason to assume negative things can't have an enduring effect on certain people or that others will immediately be trapped in a dopamine positive addiction - everyone sits somewhere different on that spectrum.
     
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  15. Red Eagle

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    Really, what causes an addiction faster than porn? I mean if you smoke one cigarette, play a videogame, drink some alcohol or do whatever you won't immediately turn into an addict. These things are addicting with time and continued use. Porn hooks you from the very first second you visit a porn site. You're brain is wired to seek out sexual pleasure and if one has such an endless amount of porn to watch, it's not a question if someone gets addicted but how far can the addiction progress.
     
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  16. Purps

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    I feel like there will be more and more people who will get addicted to porn with VR and who knows what will come in future. More on more people will have problems. Since porn apparently is so normal to watch and ''everyone does it'' type of thing.
     
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  17. sparkywantsnoPMO

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    There will have to be a major cultural change before this pattern reverses. The only bright side is that in all the research I've done over the last month, it appears there is a strong front for the porn is bad side, and a small (but admittedly vocal) minority trying to defend there is nothing wrong with it.
     
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  18. contrast

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    There really needs to be more research. A lot more. With more credibility than what currently exists.
     
  19. I guess to answer that question you would have to ask what are the differences between the person who views it occasionally and the person who uses it at the expense of everything else? what do their lives look like and how were they brought up by their parents and what kind of social interactions do they have, additionally to that you have the cultural influences, environmental influences and also any genetic predisposition to addictive behaviour. I fail to see how porn is of any benefit to society as a whole. Recently the UK have adopted a new law to force online pornographers to implement robust age checks for the purpose of protecting children from its reach. The crazy thing is there were people who were in the porn industry such as amateur performers who run their own sites, coming out to say they disagreed with the move because it would affect how they make their living. I find that absolutely disgusting, they are basically saying they don't care if children watch them and that's wrong. I'd bet most of us started out viewing adult content when we were way below the legal age to do so.
     
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  20. GG2002

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    I think you are exactly right. Non addicts do not experience PMO like addicts do. If they did they would be addicts. I do think certain people have a predisposition to addiction and others don't, As a non addict I cannot understand why someone would continue to do something causing harm and an addict can't see how others can't be addicted. We see things with a different mindset .
     
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