P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Next May will be 5 years of Nofap / 57 months with PAWS for me.

 

Yes. It is a " hardware " issue, not " software " .

 

Interesting. I thought genital numbness and shrinkage was an exclusive porn withdrawal symptom.

 

Thank you for sharing. Thank you for your honesty. You help all of us. We can all learn from each other what to do and even more importantly what NOT to do.

Your experience with 5 years in PAWS without a resolution makes me inclined to try methods other than the one you used, which was apparently 'sit and wait'. If your method worked, you would have been cured.


I am inclined to try the TRE and Wim Hof and other "black magic". But I have not conquered PAWS so all I have at this time are just theories.

 

Well...you can always use blood magic to upregulate your dopamine receptors. Lyrium also works but you need a dwarf for that. You know...because of the enchantment.

Whatever you do, dont " sit and wait ". Homeostasis only works if you dont wait.

 

Don't mislead people. You've had a lot of breakdowns in these 57 months. It's not a strip, it's clowning

 

What ?

 

sometimes i think ive fucked my recovery up permanently, honestly. Year after year my paws symptoms have become progressively worse.

 

The thing is its not Black magic. TRE is used in therapy all over the world. Both Wim hof and TRE has science behind it if ur not into spirituality, which is fine btw. Get started with it and do it 3 times a week for a start and see how you feel.

 

I want to clarify the post I wrote above. I am not saying that everyone's recovery is being stunted by emotions. However I am saying if you have been in recovery for 3-5 years and you still aren't experiencing morning wood or you still experience mood swings, or you still isolate yourself or still fear meeting real life women, I would seriously consider reviewing your recovery.

If every time you are stressed, bored, fearful, anxious or angry you run to online gaming, or junk food, or Netflix, or YouTube or Instagram again I would seriously start looking at your recovery. If none of these apply to you, then maybe you are fine to sit and wait. But for my own recovery I had to realise that all of these activities had become replacements for PMO. As a culprit of doing all of the above, the reality of my situation was that I was not really healing because all I was doing was replacing my PMO addiction with something else.

When I talk about "dealing with your emotions" all I am saying is instead of sitting online all day, or eating shit when you don't feel great, deal with the emotion instead. Its not spirituality, black magic or some form of mumbo jumbo - its what non addicts do in everyday life. I think some of us have become so conditioned, that we are in denial about facing reality and life. As soon as I stopped chasing all the addictive activities and started dealing with the internal shit, my recovery changed. Finally I am not riddled with depression and negative thoughts. I can actually sit down and study for a few hours. My headaches are pretty much gone. I can finally enjoy sleep for 7 hours and enjoy vivid dreams. And finally my morning wood is gradually coming back.

The reality of my situation is I have been almost 5 years without PMO, but I have been ignoring all the other important signs like addiction to video games and cravivng junk food and sweets still. I am not saying you have to give up cold turkey, but I do think to actually get through PAWS you have to look at ALL your addictions and what is driving them. As much as people are saying "they don't believe PAWS is down to emotions" I fail to understand what you believe is driving your addiction/urges? Surely if you did not have emotions driving you, you would not be addicted? You would not be here?

If you are in the 4/5 year bracket just consider a) you might have missed a key aspect to recovery or b) you are not doing so correctly. Or don't and continue the wait. I am not trying to be a spiteful know-it-all with this post, I am simply posting what is finally working for me, for those who are experiencing the same and well and truly want to get out. Waiting out PAWS is definitely a noble cause but I would guess a recovery time of 7 years if not longer, and for me that is just too long.

 

@mentorr really glad you have recovered to an extent. How much do you think you have recovered in terms of percentage? Do you think we can make a complete recovery? Is it realistic?

 

I've been dealing with PAWS for 8 years and the reason for this was ignorance. I thought i had fibromyalgia. I didn't know I had to stop completely for a long period of time to heal.

 

Mate I've read your story before I started writing in this thread. If I remember correctly you have relapsed 36 times in your reboot, that's a lot of relapses. I'm not saying this to discourage you, I am saying it because it may take you more than 5 years to heal because so many relapses. Yet this is just a theory and anything can happen, I'm learning here too just like everyone else.

 

Maybe 60-65%? Its hard to say. I feel as though I might still have a little way to go but recovery is gradually becoming better.

I think anyone can completely recover, it is realistic. Do you worry that you can't?

 

How many orgasms do you have last 4 years ?

 

We have to treat this like any other addiction. This is the toughest of all other addictions to get rid of. We are fighting against something that is inside us. But definitely things get easier. We must be vigilant all the time. It's so easy to slip especially in this hypersexualized society.

Yes. It's been so long that I have almost forgotten what "normal" feels like. This started ever since I started doing PMO. I have done almost everything to heal but nothing helps. Things have started getting better now. But I don't know if I can be the normal self I was before PMO.

 

Anyone can recover, I think it just takes effort. How many years did you PMO'? How long have you been in recovery?

 

What kind of effort?
I started doing it from the age of 13 or 14. It started with once a day without P. Then gradually 4 times a day for 2-3 years. I had become a zombie at that time. Things started getting better after I started doing nofap. But I was doing "nofap". I was consistently chasing girls on the internet and in real life. I couldn't stop PMO. I still used to do It once in a while. I didn't know back then that going hard mode was the only way. I have been through so much pain that I can't even explain. My streak is nothing compared to yours.

 

I have not relapsed in almost 30 months, but my reboot has not been perfect, I was sexting a lot for the first 6 months and sometimes if Instagram or other apps show girls in bikini or stuff like this I watch for a moment before closing it. I'm not made of steel, human here.