P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Well with anti depressants I'd say be careful too because we don't know how well they work for treating pmo addiction. The reason I'm saying to get on them is because of the potential risks of dealing with withdrawal alone. I fear the risk of suicide, sedentary lifestyle, and overall bad health. Maybe anti depressants can be the thing that finally helps you get up in the morning and finally do things. I'm maybe gonna try anti depressants and tell you all if I benefitted. Just don't underestimate withdrawal and recovery; it really is serious. And if you need help please seek it.

 

I do not understand the aversion to antidepressants. If you take a look on the benzobuddies site a lot of them take and recommend using antidepressants to get through withdrawals. From what i understand most antidepressants are not addictive.

If people on the benzo forums can recover while taking antidepressants then pmo addicts can too. They will not reverse or wipe out your recovery process.

 

Thank you.

I had a bad moment. I don't know what's wrong with me. It's just too much. I think work is an extra burden that I have. I think I would be better off without work. It's a shame that I still have to say that after 4 years.

I don't know if it's my personality or if you have it too, but I feel like I always have to be perfect at work. I don't want to make any mistakes.

Believe me people. Work is usually easy and usually a person likes to go to work. I know that sounds strange but it's true. That's my personal opinion.

 

Yeah man, you're right. There's no other way but to keep going and hope that one day you'll get out of the flatline.

No matter how long it takes. It can only get better.

 

Yeah man. I've heard that from a lot of people who have experienced the same thing. They started with PMO and suddenly their personality changed. Anhedonia, brain fog and social anxiety.There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's chemical imbalance in the brain.

During ejaculation, several neurotransmitters are released in abnormally high amounts and over time it leads to the brain no longer being able to naturally release these neurotransmitters in normal amounts. Less is released and then you have the symptoms of a deficiency of these neurotransmitters.

Yeah man. I'm not going to take antidepressants, I'm just going to keep going no matter what. I will not die as a result. I have experienced worse things in these 4 years.

I think work and therefore stress was the reason I suddenly want to "give up" like this. I can't handle stress well during flatline/PAWS.

In recent years, I have mostly lived on unemployment benefit and my savings because of PAWS. I've run out of money so I'm going back to work. I get problems from the migration office when I register for social welfare. I'm trapped and see no way out. I have to work now, no matter how hard it is. That's terrible. Going to work even though you're not healthy.

Oh God, please help me.

 

Yes man, absolutely. I agree with you on that. I saw black and that's why I just thought loud and fast. I was overwhelmed by the whole situation. Work seems to be a big stress factor.

As I replied to another user earlier, I get problems from the migration office when I register with the social welfare office. It must be hard to work when you have health problems. I feel sorry for all the people who are ill and need help.

I feel trapped and overwhelmed. Now would be the perfect time to get out of the flatline/PAWS and finally get my life under control. Now is the moment when I really need the benefits.

That's the strange thing. I want to feel joy, pleasure and motivation. It's not because of my attitude. I would like to perform very well at work and get my life under control, etc. I want to but my brain is damaged by chemical imbalance. I'll say it again and as you have noticed, it's not my attitude, it's the neurotransmitters such as dopamine that play a role. I simply have little energy, am exhausted, brain fog, anhedonia, etc., although I don't want that.

Someone who has broken their leg or is paralyzed also wants to be healthy and able to work. It's not because of their attitude, but because of their illness that they can't do it. Many people don't understand that. Chemical imbalance or, let's say, depression or other mental illnesses should finally be taken seriously as real illnesses.

 

No, man. Look.

When you take antidepressants, you unnaturally release neurotransmitters like serotonin at normal levels. According to one opinion, stopping the medication causes the brain to become accustomed to the normal amount and it then releases the normal amount without medication. You are then healed.

Or the second opinion.. You stop taking the medication and your brain isn't used to releasing neurotransmitters in normal amounts. Your brain will then have a neurotransmitter deficiency, just like before the medication. It could be even worse. You may release even less than before the medication. Then you have PAWS from medications and PMO.

Do you really want that?

Sure, of course. Medication can help temporarily but not in the long term, but I assume that after a few months you have to increase the dose again and again to achieve the same effect and then you stop the medication to see whether the brain has adjusted to releasing neurotransmitters in normal amounts.

Personally, I believe in the second opinion but I'm not an expert. I don't want to take that risk. This is playing with fire.

 

Yes man. These are good signs. A lot has happened in the last few months. But it's still not something groundbreaking. I will continue. Based on what has happened over the last few months, I should see a PAWS reduction again this month or at least next month. I'm trying to stay afloat.

 

Again, ssris are not addictive. You dont just go on them and become instantly dependant.

From your post i gather that you dont really know much about antidepressants at all, you definitely shouldn’t be giving others advice on them.

there are many who have used them to recover with success both for pmo addiction and benzos. They use them to help with the withdrawals and then come off them after recovery is complete. Im not saying its the right option for everyone but if you are struggling and you think they might help then its something you should consider.

 

Hey guys.

Check this story out. He writes -> https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?members/beanburrito.133874/

 

@Ezpz the benzo recovery stories you referred to, are these people who have been in withdrawal for 4+ years?

I believe there is a difference between a benzo addiction and a PMO addiction. Legally benzos can only be given to people over the age of 18, whereas porn does not discriminate and has no age restriction. If we take two people, one addicted to PMO, the other addicted to benzos for the exact same time, I a convinced the PMO addict would take longer to recover, however I could be wrong.

In relation to using anti-depressants to recover from PAWS, I personally would not go near them unless things got bad and I was contemplating suicide.

 

The mention of anti-depressants is just an emotional response to the problem, not a pragmatic decision.

It wont solve anything, it will only mask the problem and make things worse. What is the plan ? Take anti-depressants for the rest of your life ? It would be more healthy to your brain reward system if you smoked cigarettes ! That s how a bad ideia it is.

 

100%. I agree.

 

We always get to the source and fix the problem. We should always aim this. And for us my friends it is the internet. Internet is the source of our problems. %90 we are using it for entertainment purposes. Only %10 goes to productivity, that's why we are here.

 

If only this were true..

 

Not really. I am here because of ignorance, i did not know about the consequences of porn consumption. But i get your point.

 

Something is different.