Like kpop dance, some choreo will be hand slide down the breats abit or ass etc... does it count as sexual activities?
It's not like i have to go back and kept replaying the hand sliding down b**b part and ass, but it was apart of the dances, like i don't want to watch or intentionally wanted to see it. I have to like skipped over that choreo right away? everytime i wanted to see dance again?
I suppose it depends on how triggering those parts are for you. If it is not a big deal, just watch it in moderation.
It never actually urge me to masturbate or porn, like i already cleaned from PMO, after couple years of nofap, however i still suffering these triggered. It once normalize to me, cause i think it just a dance, it doesn't have rate 18 or anything, it kpop dance or western dance etc...
went back to my old addiction, PMO of course. My final destination of nofap is to get a girlfriend then doesn't mean i go back to pmo, it just that I don't have to scared about going back to those old habits.
If PMO is a relapse then watching Kpop is not a relapse But watching kpop may be a trigger for you. You may want to avoid in the future
Like now it turned into fear... I could no longer watch my favorite girl group etc... it triggered but it never urge me to masturbate or watch porn
It sounds a little bit like an OCD But if it's a sexual trigger, I would avoid it. Freedom from PMO is more important than a girl band But if it's an OCD obsession, then it's a different story
Sadly i have GAD which is really similar to OCD, it's just that once normalize stuffs become a fear is driving me crazy... Even watching comedy like getting hit in the nut or ass, michael jackson dance grabbing their nut etc... everything that related to sexual parts, my brain would instantly question my own wisdom whether those count as relapse... Certain times i just wanna give up on nofap, and go back to the old addiction, so it won't bother me anymore...
I think it's important to define what's a relapse. Relapse is PMO. That's it end of story. I also have a case of OCD My sickness wants me back to acting out and it will use any means necessary to get me there including triggering my Ocd Acting out has never solved a single problem for me. Just numbed me out for a long time
yea GAD really similars to OCD, the different is how i deal with constant worrisome and overwhelmed by certain thought or action etc... most are temporary, i went to therapy talk about OCD as well, she said GAD also did cause rumination thoughts. However after all what i just mentioned above those aren't in porn categories but it is triggered. Would u count those as relapse?
This is not a relapse according to my rules. My rules are - Are you faced with sexual material involuntarily? = No relapse - Do you voluntarily proactively searching for sexual material? = This is a relapse I am watching some netflix show about the Roman empire and emperors and there A LOT of sexual scenes in it, but these are no relapses in my opinion because I am curious to the story as a whole and the scenes are popping up sometimes.
Stop it now, it will escalate more more and you end up pmo. Youre watching it over and over again cause of the dopamine hit you get from seeing it, its like a little porn.
Well i should follow this, i also have my favorite anime shows like attack on titan, the Witcher netflix and peaky blinders... I unable to watch all of those due to nudity at the first episode lol...
It doesnt have to be a relapse instantly it could take 2-3 days that the fantasy of the porns become so powerful that you vant resist the allout relapse
Not really lol, and i never let dumb urge to take over me. It's just that even though i set specific rules, i still felt something else is wrong like all the soft things that considered slip or relapse which is not even porn... It just something that can happened unexpected... It's hard to explain... If i have to give an example like a girl wearing tight pant gym working out them big booty looking hot even though it's not porn, but other would considered it a relapse or slipped up etc...