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The danger of sexual ASMR audios

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by MarcA, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. thnx, i am going to try to do more. Eventhough i do t feel like moving away from my couch. Very unmotivated for anything at all. Hope i feel some of that energy soon! The only thing i wanna do is listen that asmr and dont want it at the same time. I did not give in. Happy i still have those hours in my streak hehe.
     
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  2. Thats how it is for me a bit aswell!
    Thst attention etc.
     
  3. Thnx if i have a question i will ask it later. Right now i am going to bed. Thanks for your answer and opinion. I will think about it. Already feel sad as i am not returning to ‘her’ indeed haha. Thats literally sick… thanks for the eye opener. Realisong as i type.
     
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  4. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    Bro just do the classic basic things the nofappers of this forum do when they start NoFap, like cleaning room, do pushups or whatever, honestly I my room while listening to esoteric podcast and I like it!!
    Still better than listen shibby (I admit, i was thinking to be the only one that listen that shit in this forum) btw she’s so dumb...her attempt to manipulate brains are so bad, but like every other femdom porn, some people are still susceptible to it.
     
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  5. yeah i have 2,5 days no porn nothing behind me. And i dont crave anymore for now. Realise for real that its dumb bad stuff indeed.
    I dont want to listen thst crap anymore for 90% now. The 10% is misery that you want to feel loved somehow haha. But the 90% wins.

    Started intermittend fasting. 16/8 hours so in evening i eat all i usually do in a day. That takes away my junkfood craving in the evenings.

    Going to workout in the gym in 1,5 hour.

    Than go to work. Now prep some healhy meals to bring to my work. (Shifts in health care). So i am making a plan.

    So craving for porn already was gone, now shibby is getting cut out.

    Work on myself and find a nice women soon. Maybe in a shirt while i try a dating site or just go to a bar and ask a girl to dance and talk.

    i know i will be fine.

    thnx for advise bro.
    Will clean my house when i get bored around here aswell, good idea!
     
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  6. MarcA

    MarcA Fapstronaut

    Yeah man that's what I thought too haha. But I am happy that I can get a lot of impressions here about this topic - it really helps to understand the problem more holistic and attaking it :)

    The thought we developed two weeks ago , @Endless River, really helped me that it is like a toxic girlfriend that you have to leave but you return because the s*x is good.

    Sad thing is after a long streak when I relapse my brain wants to relapse to this hfo stuff and not only M because with all that built up energy the dopamine rush of listening to it would somehow be even greater - I guess I have to takle this in the next weeks.

    What a fucked up world we live in, but I am happy that you guys are here to discuss this - it really helps! thanks!
     
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  7. Hi MarcA. I hear you. I have 7 days Sretention and 3,5 days no porn anything (they call it monk mode) behind me. I feel alot better most of the time now. More energy, almost get motivation to workout or other usefull things. There is still something on the way. Lonely a bit…. I am honest…. Hard to say or complain about emotions, feels bad to talk about emotions dont wanna whine… Anyways, i dont have urges to specifically watch bimbo’s in garter belts n stockings to trigger shibby mistress crap. Just the intimate attention and just being her property. Its a emotional and intimate connection to her voice.
    Primitive brain is thinking maybe its my imaginary girlfriend. Like the mental succubus haha. Not being serious about the succubus. But i ise it as a metaphore. But maybe i get partitially breakup sadness…. I miss the attention of hfo. That is literally what it is to me. Been listening for like 2 years. But i dont have to cry or whatever. Just missing while the sex felt good for the time beiong there like you said.

    no cravings for porn at all! I start longing for a women in reality now.
    No idea how or when, but after december i start trying to socialize somehow. I am 37 so maybe go to a single party or speed date or whatever. I feel a bit embarreses but because of the testosterone of 7 days Sretention i dont quite give a duck if anyone would even be negstive about this. I realise it went to far. I learned alot about it though.
    I am proud i feel so strong mentally to know whats going on and cure the toxic waste out of my system.
    Nice talking with you and nice you share your experience. Makes ke think differently about it.
    Thanks MarcA. And good luck! Wish you the best!
     
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  8. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    I mean this is the reason! Imagine have a toxic girlfriend and you want to stay with her just because you want to fuck! What a sad destiny! I'll rate escape. Relationship isn't sex, Plato teachment are strong and you should never love someone just because you like have sex with her/him because it mean you have just attraction of the body-face. This mean that if you get bored of her/him (the famous dopamine problem we have also here with porn) or when her/him become old you left for someone else that will attract you more. Like you pass years of relationship and cut everything because you was bored, because the sex didn't satisfied you anymore...that's some sad shit, and some just make a children because they think it will ripristinate the original relationship, for ''save'' the relationship..but it never work! And result with a children with two separated parents! I would never have a relationship based on sex, and if I have to be honest i'm to busy on trying to stop get attempted by pornography than trying to get a girlfriend because i want to have sex. Because this is an error many made here, wants a girlfriend so you could have sex and replace your porn addiction with sex and thinking it wouldn't have consequence.
    Everyone can do whatever they want, if they want to fuck all days, and say they are healed from porn addiction but have it replaced by sex addiction good for them, but accept your consequences then...
     
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  9. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    I got the same problem every time i get a relapse after a long streak, i'm not saying that I return to hfo or whatever, even because for me doesn't work I masturbate normally but use it because audio asmr porn is more exciting.
    Even a normal masturbation with NOTHING just bring me to a chaser effect, so listen this. If you reach like 60-70 days and aren't unable to resist, if you relapse with normal masturbation and nothing else just stay aware that will result (the next day) with a damn spectre-chaser effect that will make you tired and gave you a huge brain fog, and 90% of the times i solved that shit by masturbate with porn, because i choosed the ''easy way'' even if i could wait some days waiting it to get gone. The first time i relapsed on nofap in 2020 was without porn, so normal masturbation, then I returned easly to watching porn, you don't even know how it sucks that headchace! But is just a scam from your brain because it want more dopamine and you gave him with porn...so take care of this fact.
    Becuase you are telling us that relapsing with masturbation or normal porn will bring to a succession of relapses that will bring you back to the asmr shit...
    I hate this shit btw i'm going well and I don't listen to asmr anymore, just don't listen to shittby and friends for the safety of your brain, body and spirit, or prepare to get all your energies sucked up.
     
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  10. Nice info about Plato. It sucks indd to stay there!

    and the next thing: So after 60-70 days you nasturbated without P, and you still had brain fog etc.
    Have you had 1 try where you did not give in to the chaser effect? I would like to know if one empty the nuts after how long you wiuld be are back on track with dopamine receptor upregulation back to normal (factory settings).

    Bevause of addiction you got the chaser tuats obvious, But did you govenin and binged for a fee times or you remain strong after 1 relapse and maybe 4 days later you felt benefits again?
     
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  11. In day 5 monk mode now got a more easy time. 9 days Sretention and 4 daysmonk mode behind me. I dont miss shittby anylonger. No craving for prob whatever. I am now just socially awkward. If i see a women my eues go down often like a watch bodyparts on my computer screen hahaha.

    making them and myself feel uncomfortable. I can deal with it. But my body automatically sends my eyes towards boobs and ass.

    gotta try to work on that. if i see a nice rack i am going to force myself to look at something else like a light, or the grass or my watch of whtever.
     
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  12. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    Even if you have wet dreams (so you coom during night) you get the chaser effect the next day..is a fact for me. I had chaser effect more than a when ago when I've M without porn. So take care of the spectre of the chaser effect if you wish to relapse after months, because it will easly bring you watch porn.
     
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  13. En?gmatic

    En?gmatic Fapstronaut

    The problem is that when you looks to a woman you probably think to sex. And many women just want you to think to that, according to how they dress in gym for example lol, but it seem just my humble opinion...even if it is a fact that they want to show themself.
     
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  14. yeah they wear a cotton ass condompants for visuals. I bet it feels nice to them though. But you never see a women with way to many pounds wearing those.

    but i look at all women when i am talking to college’s who even try to look modest with a normal hoody or sweater. My body is just scanning for a potential partner. It is uncomfortable though.

    the women who like that attention with all
    That porn look make up and clotuinf are the types i consider sex object. Not a potential human being to have a good relationship with. Everybody is still different and often they have issues aswell nlso jot judging anyone here

    women i am attracted to a dressed casual and regular. Not a porn display gold digger:) so i just on purpose never give those any attention. I am shy of beautifull women though still haha

    problem is, i dont find women iutside of porn not so beautifull, and the porn types look like hookers with all that make up.
     
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  15. MarcA

    MarcA Fapstronaut

    Haha - I have that fight to :emoji_sweat_smile: In my experience it gets worse the more you think about it when you talk to a womam for example. "Don't look into the cleavage/the boobs! Don't do it!!" - And oops it happend and she saw it all :emoji_joy:

    As I now revisist because you brought up the topic I now remember that it was much worse for me a year ago - with Sretention/beeing high energy it somehow gets better for me (altough one should be more horny). But I guess it gets better because I am more focused on the conversation with the other human/female and like the eyecontact.

    And tbh I/you might also misinterpret it sometimes: Sometimes woman straighten the decollete and i think - "oh no - did i slip? did she catch my glimpse?" - sometimes they just do it naturally i guess when they talk to another human/potential sex partner :emoji_laughing:

    Great hearing that you that you feel the positive effects of Sretention:emoji_ok_hand:
     
  16. The first 8 days were very easy for me in comparisation of now.

    my brain constantly reminds me of how nice it feels for the 1 hour of listening that asmr and everything that goes with it, you know what i mean.
    I can say to myself to not think about it and that the thought should go away. But jow they constsntly come back and starting to fantasise about the best parts that felt good.
    Those good parts where still crap and shit compared to real sex. But thats not nearby now.


    Just saying, i have a very very hard time now. Day 9 is horrible. Woke up with extreme morning wood 3 times.
    Now my head hurts, depressed. Wheeee…. What did i do to myself all those years….
    I am gonna keep on the streak and make it to 90 days! I kinda neglect the 90 days making it no porn and masturbation into my lifestyle. But i hope that after those 90 days i feel better like everyone says. This is hard man!!! But i am gonna make it!
     
  17. Hahaha, yesterday had a college dressed very nice in black shiny leather pants and pink blouse blond hair…. It was easier now to not lose myself. So after only 1 week thst went better! Nice to onow that it gets more easy over time. I am starting to feel like ‘the cool’ guy all of a suddon
     
  18. Day 15 atm. Feeling a little better. I realise where my depression cones from. I only pmo-ed en worked out a little. Now i really notice i dont have much friends or literally anything else to do. Lonely and bored. But if i think about listening asmr i get happy and feel good. I escaped the reality. I knew it. But now i really realise and feel this. But indont go back to porn or asmr.
    Gonna fix the things i miss.
    I am 37 so no idea how i can find a girlffriend maybe speeddate. I think i am to old to go out and dance. Literally no idea what age ppl are in the city that go to a party for dancing.
     
  19. Caveat Emptor

    Caveat Emptor Distinguished Fapstronaut

    Hi everyone. I have been struggling with audio joi and hfos, etc. Including from
    Shibby. I haven’t “used” any other kind of porn for like two years, but this stuff keeps pulling me back. I think I’ve convinced myself that it’s less harmful because it’s not visual, related a lot to people saying they successfully quit visual porn just to become hooked to audios. I know these audios are bad for me, and could become an even worse addiction but I still have trouble staying away. Over the last two-ish years, I got back like once every one or two months, with the record being like five months.

    And everytime I do, it’s exciting in the moment, but the O is usually so freaking weak compared to an O with my partner, and I’ll have a kind of hangover the whole next day.
    I’ve hfo’d once, and while that was an intense O, I felt that hangover for like 3 days afterwards. I haven’t gone back to that, but I’ve thought about. It’s those short jois I do every 30-ish days.
    I find myself peeking as in just reading descriptions of the audios, and then picking a short one and PMO’ing to that. Because I know the longer ones are more harmful.

    I really like the “staying with your toxic gf because the sex is so good” metaphor. I actually have quite a bit of experience with actual break ups, and I’m usually the one doing the dumping. I wonder if I could symbolically “break up” with this kind of content.
     
  20. freedom is coming

    freedom is coming Fapstronaut

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    This weekend I asked my toddler if we should wrap up his dummy and give it to his younger brother. Dummies are often hard for children to give up. Lots of people say to make doing so a thing. Some hang them on a tree, or have some other way of saying goodbye to it. It makes sense. It ends one era and helps transition to a new one.

    The allendar center had a podcast about having conversations with friends when friendship ends, to manage that ending.

    So I really like your idea of breaking up with it. How would you do it? I'm going to do similar with some other behaviours i need to break free from.

    I'm tempted to write a letter to my self harm, as i seek a new way of breaking up from it. I escalated yesterday. Maybe put it in the post and read it when it comes back?

    Or making a physical representation of it, and sitting down and talking to it, explaining why i don't need it.
     

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