Can PMO work for some people?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Bloodstream, Dec 4, 2022.

  1. Bloodstream

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    So, for me it's not good because it effects me negatively but I just today read that 8/10 guys born in the 90s look at porn online. That's a lot, and I am just wondering how this is shown in society, in relationships etc. Can PMO actually work for some guys and not be a negative thing? For instance I used to PMO maybe once or twice a week, but the problem for me is not the amount of times I watched porn but what it did to me, my relationship and also my brain.

    If that many males watch it regularly, shouldn't we see more problems? Is there a way to comsume porn at all and not having all these negative side effects?
     
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  2. InappropriateUsername

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    Porn is like any addictive activity: drinking, gambling, drug use--most people can do it without a problem. But some people can't.

    And a lot of those guys born in the 90s may be experiencing issues that go unreported or are misdiagnosed.How many men in their 20s and 30s need ED medication?
     
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  3. Bloodstream

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    I have no idea and I assume guys born in the 80s and 70s have around the same numbers tbh.
     
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  4. livinginhell

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    I don't think that PMO can work for some people.
     
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  5. IR254

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    I guess it comes down to your definition of 'can it work'. Can they function physically, socially and mentally? Probably. Would they do better physically, socially and mentally if they didn't watch porn? Probably.
     
  6. Alcatel1312

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    I didnt know i had an addiction until i started doing my own research. This is where people lack, they have a shitty life, low energy, no girls in their life and they blame the world for their problems because they dont know that the main cause is PMO. I was like this before, i could never even think my life was shitty because of PMO, i thought it was other external things. Most of these guys have shitty lifes, problem is that they dont know that PMO is the reason. People dont know, because they dont seek knowledge. There will always be doctors saying it is healthy, and this is the first thing you see on google when you search «is P bad?». They do everything to hide the disastrous effects P have on our society.

    It made me feminine, not productive, s1mping for girl attention 24/7, no life goals, no energy, sexualizing everybody, jacking off to every girl i saw, family problems, always grumpy. Look around brother. This is how 60-90% of males live today in the western world. Feminized, no goals, getting high, seeking instant gratification, having sex with everything they see, not working out, using girls clothes and nail polish.

    Any thing a nerd with glasses makes to make our lives easier or more happier from shorter duration of use. We will buy, we will run to buy it.

    There are no men today, maybe in some harsh areas in the world. Boys evolve into feminine men because of PMO. The most masculine men i know with lots of respect in the streets, are guys who dont beat their meat and it is a very few of them.
     
  7. Bloodstream

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    To be completely honest I don't see things this way. I do think porn is harmful and also you can form an addiction. However you can not say that the effect on someone jerking off once a week to porn and someone sitting 48 hours a week with porn is the same. That would be saying an alcohol and someone that casually drink has the same problem. However that being said I still believe it's a problem for many various reasons. False expectations, it distance us from real life girls, girlfriends, wifes, husbands etc, it affects our ability to have a working libido and sex life etc.

    I do know guys that have a great marriage, sexlife but still they do watch porn or at least nudity like the things on some plattforms that could be described as maybe masturbation, pornography etc. So yes, maybe their love life would be even better without but the problem with availability is that if it's available people will watch it. I grew up before internet and we only had the occassional magazine or our imagination. As long as there is a possibility to see extremely good looking females doing porn men will watch, I think it will be impossible to stop. It's so hard coded into our DNA to look if we can. I am not saying it's normal, just that it's extremely hard to avoid, especially being alone, not dating etc. Still we here we try, that's honorable.
     
  8. Bloodstream

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    That could be true, however I do think a lot of people function very well still watching porn. Not addicts, but casual consumers. However as we all can conclude it messes with our brains when it comes to dopamin etc so I would not say it's good but I would also not say that it's a disaster for everyone. Everything is realative of course. I do like something a guy told me many years ago when talking about P. He did not watch it and said something in the lines of "it's more exciting when you finally get to see the real thing". This is something that stuck with me, of course I agree 100%, P has nothing on the real thing and most of us (if not all) want the real thing. This is also a reason why I stopped watching P, because I see it as an investement in the real thing, even if it's not happening now it will in the future and it will be so much better because I haven't spent hours watching something similar on a screen.
     
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  9. Bloodstream

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    I have to disagree with you. What is a real man anyway? There are real men, and we are constantly evolving. But yes porn do make us soft in ways that are not good. I never simped, I could watch porn everyday for 5 years and I would still not simp so I believe it's more a personality trait tbh. Sorry but the same men asking girls for sex 100 times until they give it up or call the police, the same boys simp. I never did, never will. I try to not give girls to much attention, especially not if they look good and knows it. I mean who wants to be a number in the line..never never ever give these women compliments.

    I agree P is dragging us down, but not that all consumers of P have miserable lives etc, I don't think it's as easy as that.
     
  10. Bloodstream

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    I agree with everything you say. For me watching even 2 minutes is like dipping my brain into sugar. It wants more and more and more. It's like candy, I have to eat it all even if my stomach hurts. I don't know if that is because of how my brain has become, an addiction or if this is how all our male brains work.
     
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  11. Idk though… because I think he may be right… each time we have an ejaculation either through PMO or just plain MO without porn, we are in a way losing momentum. We are throwing away the good energy that has been accumulating within us.

    So if we don’t PMO or MO for the next 5 years straight… or if we only do PMO once a week or once every two weeks for the next 5 years straight… I think it’s possible that the version of ourselves doing no PMO for 5 years straight will be in a better place than the once a week or every two week guy
     
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  12. Alcatel1312

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    Hello brother. A guy who PMO’s once a week is ofcourse not the same as somebody who does it everyday.
    But let me ask you this, would you let your kids watch P once a week? Nope. Never. Nada. You wouldnt, why? Because you know deep down P is something that comes with a few benefits in the short term, and alot of problems in the long term. So why do it once a week, or once every month. Just never do it, seek out real women, seek out feminine energy.

    The guys who have «great relationships» with their wives, and still watch P once a week, thats a lie. Im pretty sure the woman also do some weird ill ratchet stuff behind his back.

    A woman of value, who respect herself, takes care of her and knows her worth - would never ever let a man do weird shit like watching P behind her back. Dont use this as an excuse brother, P is a problem maker in our society, and dont you forget that P gives us false expectations, so if you watch some weird shit and want to try it out on your girl, she might lose attraction for tou becaue she might not want to get it in the ass or be locked in a cage.
     
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  13. fredisthebes

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    Depends what you mean by no problem. Most people would be healthier, happier and more in control of their lives if they stopped drinking, gambling, drugs or porn. But if it's occasional use, it might not be a major detrimental thing in their life. It might not even be their worst 'vice' that they need to tackle. Most people in America probably need to tackle their junk food addiction first.
    But I don't think a regular porn habit could ever be said to be beneficial.

    I'm pleasantly surprised that as many as 20% of men born in the 90s never look at porn, to be honest. I hope it is accurate.
     
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  14. Fullyawake

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    I equate porn to the last scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    “Shut your eyes, Marion. Don't look at it, no matter what happens!”

    The Ark is opened and the Nazis keep their eyes open, looking at the spirits and saying how beautiful they are. But they only have the superficial appearance of beauty, and are in fact lethal, and melt their faces. Porn is the same. It makes you feel good temporarily but in the long run you are destroyed.
     
  15. henryhill

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    I really like this comparison!
     
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  16. black_coyote

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    The question is - what harm is there to consume porn in moderation?

    The question arises in the first place because we adduce value to porn. It's a candy, A little pleasure giver, A nice water mouthing delicious tantalising sugary treat. Right? It may be true to some. But for me porn is crap. trash. zero value. it's not a candy. it is bullpoop.

    I see absolutely no value in spending even a tiny fraction of time there. Hence there is no question of consumption.

    I was a madman who ate bullpoop mistaking it to be a candy. Now from numerous experiences, my perception has changed.
     
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  17. Fullyawake

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    Thanks. If we don’t look, the PMO process is stopped dead in its tracks.
     
  18. Exit To Freedom

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    Can it work for some people? I think the question should be can some people do it without bad affects. I talk to plenty of guys who say it's no problem. Ok, so I say it's not working for them, but they can do it - it's probably not helping them either but to them it's ok. For people that are addicted it's always back to square one with bad aftereffects. It won't make any difference to compare the two groups, WE still have a problem and they will still do it. It's up to us knowing what we've experienced over and over to change it.
     
  19. Fullyawake

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    Is PMO something people would be proud to share aloud with others? I don’t think so. It’s not an achievement. Deep down we know it’s a thing of embarrassment and shame. It’s an activity that thrives in secrecy.
     
  20. Don80

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    It give a short-term relief but there's always some price - time and energy wasted, feeling guilty, low self-esteem. It also depends the materials people watch. There are a lot of other disadvantages - urges. Also the more you use P, the more you want it. It also isolates people from others and causes anxiety.

    I don't think you can escape most of those side-effects.
     
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