hi guys i did not know where to ask this question so the other day my friend asked me that if you watch P but you dont touch your self until O is that counts as M ?
hmm well almost you see he said he did not touch him self he just watched P and the O happend so today this morning he send a sms to me about it and he was nerves that what he did counts as M that is why i asked this question today here his on nofap"not the website" like me
technically M didnt occur as he didnt touch himself.... However, the problem with PMO isnt M in itself, but the effect on the brain from PMO. He is still reinforcing his use of porn / orgasm and the release of dopamine. The effect on the brain will be the same. We need to abstain to stop the conditioned response (Pavlov's dogs anyone?) from porn - orgasm. This in turn stops the release of dopamine and the craving that goes with it.