P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    Severe exhaustion today.
     
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  2. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    That's what I feel. Exhaustion.
     
  3. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    I write things that come into my mind immediately and I try not to overthink things. So exhaustion is today very much present.

    That's the feeling that I feel. Exhaustion and sadness. Close to crying but I can't, even if I try.
     
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  4. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    I feel good writing or telling somebody my emotions. I feel a relief. Wow. I didn't think that this could happen.

    I am not sure know if it is PAWS or depression that I am suffering right now. Maybe it's just depression and not related to withdrawal.

    As I said, I am a little bit different and I try new stuff out and I just write what I think or what I feel. What come into my mind.

    Right now. I've got a feeling that I miss a friend that supports me. I need social contact. I need someone who takes care of me. I was so isolated during my PMO-time. No friends, alone in my room, PMO, playing video games, watching movies and series. I am not sure anymore if I just developed depression and anxiety during my PMO time and I tried to threat it with PMO. Sure PMO does release an unnormal amount of dopamine and other neurotransmitter, but maybe PMO just numbed my depression and anxiety that I already had and now during abstinence this depression and anxiety is coming up and are more intense.
     
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  5. Experiment1996

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  6. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    I need help.
     
  7. Mr.Tony

    Mr.Tony Moderator Assistant Staff Member Moderator Assistant

    Hey, You okay ???

    Contact me over PM if you don't feel alright - I'm serious!

    If you feel extremely low, please contact me - I'm here to help! We're your brothers.
     
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  8. mentorr

    mentorr Fapstronaut

    While it very likely does not feel like it, I believe depression is necessary for us to gradually recover. Think about it, if our bodies did not start to shut down, we would all probably still be PMO'ing. Depression is the only way the body is able to get our attention and actually rest and recover after years of consistent PMO.

    The side effect of your body needing to shut down is anxiety, anger, fear, irritability. I agree that recovery is not fun, but it is all part of the complex recovery process we call PAWS. Someone who recovered from PAWS said it to me, as he got towards the end of recovery, the negative feelings and depression got worse, then they suddenly disappeared. Keep going and know that the negative feelings you feel are not you, they are just a side effect of your body sitting in flatline aka recovery mode. You're doing fine.
     
  9. kenwood

    kenwood Fapstronaut

    There is one marker that indicates that you are not just depressed, but paws are a post-orgasmic hangover. Symptoms after orgasm. There are no such symptoms from ordinary wet sleep or sex with ordinary depression.
    So don't make it up. You already doubted paws once, but after relapses you clearly realized that these are paws and porn addiction. Don't step on the same rake. Hold on, man.
     
  10. Mr.Tony

    Mr.Tony Moderator Assistant Staff Member Moderator Assistant

    Just right on time when we needed you, nice job @mentorr - thanks for the explanation! :)
     
  11. OhWhenThe

    OhWhenThe Fapstronaut

    Sounds like after four years of feeling nothing, you are now experiencing emotions and are finding them difficult to process. I'd take it as a positive, at least something's happening.
     
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  12. Diegomaradona10

    Diegomaradona10 Fapstronaut

    Hi guys,i need help i feel suicidal. I am with no doubt whe worst case ever.I want to know the truth. I read of people in Paws in 3-4 years,but no one is nearly close to my state. I was a cronich fapper 4-5 times a day for years and had some erectile disfuction arount 17 years old. In 2015 (19 years old) i had to stop masturbation because of a medical circumcision i have to do. During that period no libido-shrink cock appears. Initially i notice it,but for some reason after some weeks i ignored( i just can't undestand WHY) this condition,probably i was thinking"ok,probably is normal this, due to sensitive change of circumcions and the absence of a girl for so long times " and i started to fap EVERY SINGLE DAY CUMMING EVEN 5 TIMES A DAY SOMETIMES,WITH AN HARD FLACCID COCK, CUMMING FLACCID!!!). That'insane if i thinks now to this. And this until 2020 (6 years flatilne fapping everyday )at 24 when i decide to meet a pronstitute and i discover i couldn't have 10%erection. Only in this moment i finalluly realize that i have had a hard flaccid cock and no morning wood for 6 years ignoring it. It took me even one years to discover nofap in 2021 and started semen retention 3 years ago but only rhe last 2 years i've been more consistent. I still have no libido. I read this paws of 4 years here with no cumming and i've been 6 years in this state ignoring it. So,my paws will last 20 years? I'm very suicidal guys,i don't know what to do,if my state is permanent i don't want to live anymore. Help me please.
     
  13. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    Hey, thank you. I'm already feeling much better. I'll tell you why soon.
     
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  14. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    Hey Mentor. Thank you man. I feel bad when I put you down a couple weeks ago. I don't know what was going on with me then. I definitely wish you the best.

    I'm feeling better already and I'll tell you why and what I experienced before soon.
     
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  15. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    Hey Ken.

    Thanks for your words. Yeah man. You're absolutely right. I've been in a similar situation before and it has led to relapses. I definitely won't make that mistake this time. I truly believe that an orgasm can lead to fatigue/exhaustion. As we did this almost every day for several years without really recovering from it, we are now experiencing this exhaustion in abstinence. Ejaculation still has a very bad effect on me. I will come back to this later. I'm already feeling much better. I'll explain why soon.
     
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  16. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    He always comes at the right moment.
     
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  17. Experiment1996

    Experiment1996 Fapstronaut

    Yes, something has changed since my last PAWS reduction. I am different. More information will follow.
     
  18. Mr.Tony

    Mr.Tony Moderator Assistant Staff Member Moderator Assistant

    @mentorr is a good man and so you are, like I said we're brothers, our faith somehow got us in here togather, so we got to do our best to help one another, we're brothers - we will get through this. :) ~ Remember your problem is our problem! - ;)
    Stay strong @Experiment1996 !
     
  19. Mr.Tony

    Mr.Tony Moderator Assistant Staff Member Moderator Assistant

    I'll be honest with you these two posts - scared the hell out of me, I thought you were doing something real bad to yourself.

    Thank God it's alright now.
     
  20. Diegomaradona10

    Diegomaradona10 Fapstronaut

    Have someone read my post?........
     
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