If only women know....

Lol. I’m American but grew up in Paris....but exactly — it’s the principal of the thing lol.

 

Oh you mean the next woman with her boobs out and her ass in plain sight because of yoga pants?

No it's not, it's "out of line" in a sick society that lost any sense of decency.

Sure, so what about your 10 yo daughter seeing the penises of other men all the time on the street? She should just work on that issue of HERS right?

You fight to virtue signal.

You and others like you continuously say that "you can't tell others what to do and that I have a problem" - that means that i SHOULDN'T tell others what to do because they DON'T have a problem. So you are blocking discussion.

This is exactly what you're doing telling others how not to act by preaching them WHILE you're saying it's not ok to tell others what to do.

I know it makes you feel uncomfortable because you're being reminded that's hypocrisy but you can call it strawman and close your eyes to it if it makes you feel better.

 

Ginny, Ultrafabber,

Let's all keep our shirts on.

 

During summer time it’s not easy to not look at all those curves...

However, it’s ours brains that are deviant...

Women can and should wear whatever they want!

 

But you will be free of wearing what you want and no one will cut your clit, this is my position. Dont blame others for your way of thinking as it comes just from you. Dont blame women for your macho-victim way of thinking. It is only your fault if you judge others for the way you think. And please, dont you ever talk about my family again.

 

Ginny,
Have patience.
I do not want to end this yet because I believe there is a universal need to be understood and I do not feel that yours has been met. I would very much like to understand you.

All I can tell right now is that you feel very strongly about the subject of "the way women dress" for some reason. It's a very broad topic, but it is also a very personal topic. And I cannot see the way you dress over an internet forum (at least, not this one).

My suspicion is that one of two situations is applicable:

1) You have been unfairly criticized in the past for the way that you dress, perhaps you have an uncle who is trying to force you to wear a chastity belt* or something like that, and you are in need of some reassurance that you did nothing wrong.

2) As part of your addiction, you have a habit of dressing in a way that you feel guilty about. Perhaps you strip on cam, or something like that. In this case you would need some encouragement to stop.

I don't know which it is. Or maybe it is something else altogether. But I would like it if we could offer you the understanding you are wanting.

*Edited because I did not wish for this to be an attack on anyone's religion.

 

Lol blame a woman for your lack of impulse control. Classic addict behaviour.

 

So I failed because I wouldn't act like you would, which by the way, you keep avoiding answering me what would you do, but I suppose you would lecture the guy about clothes and expect him to thank you and then get angry because he didn't. You pulled that "You will not always be around" thing out of nowhere, but even I know that people look away when they do not like what they see, so I know they would look away.

"One of every five guys wears his penis like that" is a very weird and suspicious thing to say. You seem to feel obssessed with staring at people's privates, and then you blame society for making you look at them, what a spineless way to avoid responsability for your own actions.

Yes, there are rules of decency, and one of them is not shoving your point of view into other's people faces, but you seem to only remember decency when it is convenient to you.

You think your opinion is the only right opinion, so no, it is still about you wanting me to say you are right. You are not.

There is no point in having a discussion if you are not willing to listen to other opinions.

Okay, I'll make the question again: You are with your family in the bus, and some dude dressing in a revealing way sits in front of you. The guy doesn't even notice you exist. What would you do?

I am not "Fighting for people's freedom", I just don't care about what others do as long it doesn't hurt anyone, and you are free to hate and complain about whatever you want, it is not like you are hurting anyone.

 

There are communities for people that Prefer a isolated experience. Sometimes it’s important to recognize when your norms are out or the mainstream and make the distinction.

Maybe a nice Mennonite community would welcome you? Or Saudi Arabia might take a responsible, vociferous voice like yours ?

 

Well, that's false on its face. There's even an entire forum here for women struggling with PMO addiction.

https://fightthenewdrug.org/media/gender-of-online-pornography-viewers/

In any case, no. Women do not have a responsibility for managing the sexual arousal of men. They've got quite enough to worry about on their own.

 

To be honest, that kind of system would be good in my country. "Freedom" went to far and now it is a lawless state, but that is another subject to discuss.

 

The problem is that people here lost any kind of moral behavior due to the conditions the country is going through, beconimg a "Free-for-All". No one cares about nothing but themselves, that includes relatives. There is a certain amount of gangsters living close to my neighborhood, no one will touch them, not only because they can persuade the law, but because authorities do not care about doing their jobs. I could break into the guy's house with a baseball bat and murder him and his family and I can asure you I will never get caught, but I want to be a decent human being and I won't do it, also I do not have a bat.

I've always thought of ways of how to purge my country of scum, and that Social Points things sounds like a good idea.

 

Ginny, I feel the exact same way!

https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...-insecurities-and-issues.240002/#post-2135616

In fact, my current day counter isn't set to the last time I PMO'd, in the traditional sense. It is set to the last time I allowed my negative thoughts about my body to dictate my behavior.

 

I'm glad you still have your sense of humor!