Why Do We Straight Guys Whack Off to Videos of Alpha Males Having Sex?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

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    There's no such thing as ethical non-monogamy. You're just adding fancy words to make up for a disturbing habit and to still think you're monogamous. You're either monogamous or not. If you're fucking others, you're not monogamous.

    The fact that you watch your girl railed by others is also deeply disturbing.
    That does not make porn normal or healthy though. 30 minutes is a very long time, and also 30 minutes too much really.

    You also don't have to "relieve" yourself. That's not what sexuality is or how it works.
     
  2. How so? What’s unethical about living this kind of lifestyle? No one is being harmed by it so there is no problem here. They should be able to live as they desire.
     
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  3. diesel2256

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    That's Islamophobic and anti Semitic, yo.

    But amazingly, you might be right. I have genetic markers that can be traced back to the old testament prophet Aaron. So genetically, it'd make sense I would want to stamp out such depravity with the sword.
     
  4. Oh I’m sure you care so much about that considering you admire white supremacy. You said so yourself in the other thread.

    Yep, you’re unhinged.
     
  5. By the same logic, we should turn the other cheek when people freely masturbate in and consume their own shit. Sure, they can, but are we going to say there's nothing wrong with that?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the "live and let live" mentality, but lines have to be drawn somewhere, right?

    This kind of leads into a blurry line of subjectivity since we can't entirely put a pin in what's ethical and what's not. So I'll say that it's not necessarily unethical because if all parties involved are consenting, then there's no victim. However, I will concur that the act itself is disturbing and something I'd never do, which is obviously an opinion.
     
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  6. ultrafabber

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    No dog is being harmed when fucking a woman that sits on her fours either.

    They can definitely live as desired. That doesn't mean that they can change the meaning of terms. There's no such non-monogamous monogamy, that's a oxymoron.

    "Ethical" in that case is just a word thrown in there to cosmeticize the whole situation. It has no place in there and adds no real value to the situation. The point was that you can't be non-monogamous monogamous, that's an oxymoron.
     
  7. diesel2256

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    You need to live up to your own standards. I expect an apology for your microaggression against all middle eastern peoples for the assumption they're all into killing smut peddlers. That statement was really bigoted and ignorant. All humans are exactly the same, right, right? Now where's that apology at?
     
  8. People can be criticized for anything they do but if no one is harmed then they should be allowed to do anything they want.

    The dog is not a consenting human adult so these things can’t be compared.
     
  9. Nothing wrong with what you're saying here. I'm just trying to present a way of looking at it. Guys are by nature competitive. I'm saying we can look at these alpha-male pornstars as competitors. We can either lose to them by involuntarily cuckolding ourselves to them, or we can beat them by not watching them fuck the beautiful babes we only wish we could fuck ourselves
     
  10. ultrafabber

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    That doesn't make sense. The dog simply chooses to do that as it arouses him. Dogs mount a lot of stuff, they don't have to be forced to mount a woman. I know this is deeply disturbing but that's how it works. He is not forced at all in many cases.
     
  11. You don’t know what my standards are.

    I never said all middle eastern peoples are into killing “smut peddlers” but your desire to execute pornographers sounds like something ISIS or any other Muslim extremist would do.

    Biologically, yes we’re all just about the same. There’s not many genetic differences between different races. Hell, there’s not many genetic differences between humans and chimpanzees, our closest non-human relative.

    There’s nothing to apologize for.
     
  12. N05A9

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    Where did you get nonmonogamous monogamy?
     
  13. It does make sense.

    I never said the dog had to be forced I’m just saying it’s not a human adult so you can’t compare this to what two consenting human adults do.
     
  14. N05A9

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    We are ethically nonmonogamous. We are not monogamous. Do you need further explanation?

    My partner is a woman, not a girl. Why is it disturbing to watch her have sex with someone else? Is she my property? Do I control her? Do I dictate who she sleeps with?
     
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  15. JakeWoods

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    I can relate to this. Porn doesn’t get me off anymore unless the guy has a huge dick. Not because I like dicks, but because I like watching the girl handle it. Yes, that’s the level my porn use has escalated to. I know I don’t like dicks, but porn just don’t work for me unless the guy is big. Even though it’s not the dick itself that turns me on, it’s the woman... if that makes sense?
     
  16. N05A9

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    Yes it does. Maybe this is an analogy that works. I love men's div 1 NCAA basketball. I can't throw a three pointer for the life of me but I sure like it when someone else does.
     
  17. I agree, that's why I'm there too, however unless you're only watching solo female or lesbian porn, you can't ignore that there's a muscle-bound, tattooed, big-dicked stallion of a man that is also part of the scene you are whacking off to LOL. I think really the role of the guy in porn, is that when we watch, we are getting vicarious pleasure through them, we are imagining that we are them in the scene, with their big dicks LOL. So we really are pretending to be them, and it exposes how much we envy them, even if we don't want to admit it. Meanwhile, the actual male pornstars are actually fucking the hot, beautiful babes, so that is what makes them Alphas, whereas we are merely watching, and that's what makes us Beta-cucks. So one has to ask oneself, if one likes this arrangement or not
     
  18. ultrafabber

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    Yes, of course you can. The same way if an animal is hurt, it will feel pain and you can compare him to humans feeling pain. In the case of this type of sex act, the animal feels pleasure and no pain and is not negatively affected in any way. Consent is just something you're adding to rationalize it being unethical.

    "ethical" makes no sense.
    Because it just is lol. No sane man would do such a thing. Sex is about power and control also, and you give her away to be controlled in the most primate way by another man. That is deeply disturbing. If you don't get the decision on who she fucks, she is not your partner. She is, at best, your acquaintance.
     
  19. PathOfReform

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    Never have I ever said porn had any benefits. But 30 minutes once in a while isn't going to ruin your mind. Sure, you shouldn't watch it at all because you never know where it might lead, but there's no harm in doing so once in a while ONLY IF YOU'RE CAPABLE OF CONTROLLING YOURSELF.
    There's also nothing wrong with relieving yourself. If you do so in moderation and don't let it take over your life, like most people do, there's nothing wrong with it, it might feel good and help you relax. People here have turned masturbation and porn into these diabolical things that are to blame for problems they themselves created. Right, porn is not a good thing and is not necessary, excessive masturbation and porn addiction are VERY harmful. But fact is - most people are capable of controlling themselves in that regard and do it only once in a blue moon without it distorting their views, corrupting their minds and taking over their lives.

    Got it.
     
  20. If it’s consensual, it’s not unethical. Period.