People treat you differently on long streaks

Yep, definitely. I think it has to do with the fact that people notice expressions, body language, etc that you aren't aware of. When I'm on good streaks, girls smile at me more, but I also am more confident and smile at them more, so it makes sense. Although I do think there are other things that I just don't notice if I'm doing them or not.

 

I guess it's a natural tendency. Human nature is complex and a lot of reactions are natural, although we may not like them. That's why we relapse instead of following our goals. If you aware of your thoughts in both situations - relapsing and being on a streak - you will notice that your thoughts, feelings and sometimes perspective change. Some people don't want to associate with a person who relapse because they want to be with people who are successful on this journey. Others may brag or laugh. Some of them may be more open-minded and see a human with flaws. First you need to see that in yourself. Then pull yourself together, work on yourself. Get up after falling. PMO is an easy way out.

 

Yes.....It absolutely happens to me. Around day 90 (unfortunately I have been to that milestone only 2 times ever since I started fapping....) Around day 90, I get good vibes from people from all walks of life, kids, older folks, mid age, young.....it doesn't matter. I have felt that poeple are treating me with respect...On the other hand, when I am struggling with PMO on a streak less than a month, I don't notice that social power at all...

 

I think there are lot other factors besides our own expressions, body language etc..i guess the energy and general aura we emanate plays a good part as well...

 

I noticed this within a week into abstinence and my confidence continues to build. I feel 'present' when I conversed with people. I didn't struggle to put the right words together and as a result, I captured their attention. Confidence attracts good energy from people. When we relapse, our minds are fogged up and our self worth drops immensely. We feel no sense of belonging. Consequently, people will not notice anything interesting about you. Most of the time we may keep our heads down trying to mind our own business and hoping nobody says anything to us. I've noticed all of this.

 

From my experience, this is more of a placebo effect than it is an actual thing, in the beginning I too thought whenever I relapsed people viewed me differently, but nowadays it's more like I've always been there and it was just myself holding me back, and there was never an aura about me and all that existed was myself, as a person

 

Back in 2018, I meditated for 3 weeks straight 1-2 hours per day and gave up all dopamine producing activities. No cell phones, NoFap, no video games, no junk foods. There was a guy that normally doesn't talk to me tried to build value and there were 3 women who never noticed my existence during fapping show strong signs of interest. The touching, the look, the nervous laughs and went out of the way to sat with me at lunch. Its the weirdest stuff I've experienced. Then WoW Legion came out, it went away because I played that game endlessly.

PS. My mind was blown.

 

Hey there @voltex ,

so you would say that the phenomenon is real. But you would attribute it differently, like you would see a different causal link there?

Because i had similar stuff happening to me, too. And i always wondered, whether it was this "aura-thing", or if it was the way i interacted with the world.

At one point i assumed, that, because i also had a streak where NONE OF THIS happened, that it must be an additional factor that is involved. I figured that it is the new attitude with which you approach life: on my first streak i really tried to change my whole perspective on life: how i approach my fears, how i tackle things i am uncomfortable with and afraid of and ESPECIALLY HOW I DEAL WITH WHAT OTHERS THINK OF ME. On the streak where there was "no magic", i guess i just stopped fapping but did not have the courage to live my life in a different mind set. BTW i think this is not really about CHANGING YOUR LIFE, which is a process that takes a lot of time and has to do with more long term effects for me. It is more about APPROACHING YOUR LIFE in a different way and CHANGING YOUR COMPLETE PERCEPTION AND OUTLOOK ON LIFE.

So i would say Nofap helps, cause it is also about this general question: WHAT DO I WANT FROM LIFE? DO I WANT THIS? DO I REALLY WANT WHAT I AM DOING/WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME RIGHT NOW, OR DO I WANT TO LEAVE? This has a lot to do with how you would design your "maximum life", if you could have it all, how would your life look like (and to me, this question turned out to be far harder to answer than expected). And then asking if what is happening, or what you are doing is bringing you further away from that vision or not. But that is a really radical outlook on life. Because we tend to stay in comfort zones and arrange us with what we have, cause it is save (its unsafe in its own way, which is the secret we keep from ourselves). I lived SO out of my comfort zone back then.

I spelled it out. But yet i am quite far away from it.

I should take my chance to set it all on fire a little bit more, while i still have the chance. Just a little more risk. Risk upsetting them all. Risk them talking about you. Risk them disliking you. That is my topic. Idk what is yours...

So to me it is not NoFap alone.

 

I think your confidence is higher so you don't really give a f*ck what people think which people sense and thats why they like you more !

 

Good read, my point was that I don't think NoFap gives you an aura and no one would know whether or not you relapsed, the only thing they know is how you choose to interact with people
The way I see it, I understand NoFap isn't a routine and no one has the exact same journey, and to push yourself over your previous limits and take risks, socially or financially is great and I am a bit jealous cos the past year I havent pushed myself as hard as I would like, but still miles from where I came from
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that there's no magic, we just learn different ways to turn our energy into something else

 

Reading the comments really elevated my spirit thanks for posting this post.

 

So it's just about how you interact with people, right?

Do you think that fapping doesn't make any noticeable difference? It has some effect on the mind for sure, but from your perspective do you think that part it minor, irrelevant, or something to consider? I've had a thought, one that I had gotten from those who say they PMO and they're fine, no effect on girls, life, etc, that it's just your own inner beliefs. That I am just wigging myself out, and when I am having relapses, since I believe that it makes me bad, that I believe I have failed, that I believe it is going to make me more socially awkward, less energy, etc, that is making me act it out.

I've had that thought many times, but it seems like it's just so much to put on the mind. Am I really acting out such a inferior script just because I think it, or is it the real effect that PMO has? Being the rambunctious type, I always think that they're fooling themselves, but I still question. Do you really feel there is nothing to it, that it' all in the head?

 

Sorry if I'm not good at making sense, but my personal opinion is while yes, some of it is all mental, there are still physical benefits from NoFap like having more energy or being able to focus, like how I found myself being able to study better compared to a year ago where I had 0 attention span outside of trying to find P
I'm not trying to say I PMO and walk away free nowadays, because I still choose to abstain from it and the effects it has on life is only because I chose to make myself uncomfortable instead of sitting behind a screen trying to chase pixels, and abstaining definitely helps

 

All that stuff reddit has been trying to decode for years - Confidence, Placebo, Pheromes, Big Dick Energy etc. It's all bs because they don't know or choose to ignore what is really going on...

It's not even something that is new in theory.

Einstein said, “Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality.

 

The benefit of no PMO. You are probably more relaxed, feeling internally happy with yourself, better connected to yourself and it shows in your facial expression, no shame. And people can see it.

 

When you are producing semen, you are having a tremendious amount of energy spent on making it, because it can make life, you are taking away your life force energy. How? By loosing it, body needs to pull up a nutrients from reserves, and i read somewhere that it also pulls it from bone marrow.
Not to talk about p stuff above it, that can in addition screw up your dopamine receptors, by reducing your willpower, which directly relates to quality of your emotional life, and different aspects of it.

 

I was looking for this thread to comment on and add my two cents. I don’t know why this is the case every single time I get at least past day 6-7 on a streak but you can just about set your watch to it. People are just outright nicer if not deferential in many cases. Another thing I have been able to pick up on is negative energy in whom I perceive to be chronic fappers. I can’t explain this one either but after this weekend of being out in public with my wife there were a handful of instances where I’d make an effort to avoid certain people as we’d be walking around or passing someone in a store or similar instances like this. Maybe as we regain our masculine energy through NoFap we also gain the ability to see those negative characteristics that we all may have possessed at one time or another in the old fapping days.

It’s fascinating just the same. Also having noted the negative I’m pretty sure I spotted a few NoFappers as well; just something you can sense that comes off as cool and confident.

 

Absolutely agree with this statement. It is magical how you are feeling like a fucking nobody to a respected and liked individual by random strangers in just 10+ days of not watching porn or touching your dick.

Currently around day 20 and I get mirror stares by girls in the gym, get a lot of small talk from random guys at the gym and even people in stores are giving me positivity. Law of attraction is strong

 

At >300 days, maybe people marginally treated me less like shit, but not enough to be worth it.