Hardmode Only Forum

Yay! This is an absolutely fantastic idea. Thanks Perusan! As I am also a hard moder I think it would be great if we had a place to focus on the challenges particular to being completely celibate for a long period of time.

 

Hi guys,

A hard mode forum?

Maybe you should define what "hard mode" is before creating it...

The website is called NoFap... Basically, nobody should promote M here, am I right?
I don't really see what you are complaining about... Everybody taking the challenge is doing NoPMO.

I would say that "hard mode" is:
- No P
- No M
- No O
- No Sex
- No TV
- No movies
- No TV-shows
- No magazines
- Minimal use of internet (studies/email) : No pictures/facebook/youtube/...
- Cold showers
- Exercise

Then it is Hard... otherwise, it is just a "normal mode" consisting of No PMO.

I may have misunderstood something, so don't hesitate to correct me!

JegErFransk

 

JegErFransk, You can find the definition of hard mode here: http://www.nofap.org/glossary/

 

So if I'm understanding you right Abel, you would rather have a section for those that know what they're missing, so to speak? As in those that have this situation "forced" on them would not fit the description?

 

Hard mode has already been defined in the glossary. If you want to change it you need to defer to Alexander Rhodes. As has been said elsewhere: communities and sub-communities exist for a reason and it's not our role to scatter them. If people from a same sub-community want to gather and discuss alone, they have the right to do so and they already have the necessary means to do so. Nothing justifies the extra administration and moderation effort that new forum sub-sections would involve, not to mention the potential dilution of people and information. Just for the record, the women's journal section is already a particular place on the forum, which contains general interest threads although it's meant to be a journal section. And the content you can find there, you can't find it in the general sections; hence the "dilution of people and information".

 

Hi,

Thanks Alexander and IGY, obviously I misunderstood something... I thought everybody on this website was doing what you guys call "hard mode".
So yeah, creating a new section may be a great idea... And I'll try to promote my "very hard mode" (the one I described) in this section.

I understand the point of view of Abel though. It might be interesting to take it into consideration.

JegErFransk

 

Again, my 50 cent: I don't like the term "hard mode". It implicates that a fulfilling life is "hard". Or that you need to "fight". None of that is true! Even more: ONLY WHEN I changed my attitude towards life, and when I made PEACE, I was able to go for SEVEN weeks in so-called "hard mode".

One of the root of the PMO disease LIES in the fact that people have something in mind like "life needs to be hard" ... "you need to work hard" ... etc.

But look at highly successful people: They all tell you that WORKING IS PURE JOY ! They LOVE Life, they EMBRACE life, they are COMMITTED to a fulfilling life.

So how about "improval mode" or "fulfilling life mode" or "fully peaceful freedom mode" ?

 

freedomflight, WORKING IS PURE JOY?

working in an office three years with very high stress and plenty of work made me ill.

i have tinnitus now. for you maybe life is not fighting but there was a brute fight in that office.

there are people who can handle stress good and there are people who cant handle stress.

i tried every measure for relaxing - in that office it was impossible.

i think really relaxed/happy/free people are people who made their hobbies to their jobs.

sometimes life needs fighting sometimes life is flowing - i start to speak like a real monk.

 

Working the RIGHT work is JOY -- if not, you are either doing the wrong work, or your attitude towards life and work is not so good.

I know what you are talking of. I've been doing stressful jobs in the past. I changed that. Today I am working on projects I really like, and together with people I like.

What keeps you in the office? Do you absolutely need the money?
There is also a good work for you - look for it!

 

i stopped working there. i am looking for another job.

nowadays the pressure in most of the offices is very very high.

the idea avoiding terms like hard and fight is not bad but some people are born as warriors.

could you explain a mma-fighter that life is not about fighting? his whole passion is fighting and he has a really hard life after every fight.

the hardmode is really hard for me - and i have to fight.

maybe in 4 or 5 weeks i can reach your step. maybe...

 

I'm up for the hardmode challenge. I like it hard.....mode.

 

Personally, I am not in favour of fragmenting the forum into lots of categories. I enjoy the richness of different experiences and viewpoints in the same place. I wouldn't include karezza in a hard mode section because this will fire up the dopamine receptors which is counter intuitive in hard mode.

 

Looks good to me.

Honestly I'm not in favor of separating Hard Mode. Isn't Hard Mode always a choice? Unless of course someone is physically incapable. I could conceivably go out and get a girlfriend and be having sex in a fairly short period of time. No one is forcing me to do Hard Mode, I made that decision. While we are in Hard Mode, we are fundamentally the same. Implying it's forced on certain people paints it in a bad light, as if no one would do this unless they had to. I think Hard Mode can be a fulfilling and healthy choice. Even a long term, sustainable one. If the people who do Hard Mode want to talk about their relationships, they should do it the relationship section.

This is just my personal opinion.

 

I agree MW - we do not need to divide categories like hard mode into ever smaller sub-categories.

 

Thirded. Hard mode, as has been said, represents an "officially" recognised method of rebooting here on NoFap, so I think it makes a lot of sense for it to have it's own subforum. On the other hand, NoFap hasn't been separating hard mode into voluntary and involuntary so far. Sure they represent slightly different cases, but I don't think they're effectively different enough to merit their own subforums. I suppose I'd be considered an involuntary hard moder, but yet it doesn't feel that different when I read a post by a voluntary hard moder. Compare that with a post by someone who is still M'ing though their reboot, where there is a huge gulf in philosophy.

 

Exactly Erboing.