Soon I have a date coming with a woman and I'm afraid she's gonna see the way I'm going to lust after her like a wolf!
Yeah but I am afraid I wont be able to supress my lust because of the porn images I have seen for years that are now embedded into my mind. I don't want to give her the impression of being like that. Without porn I would have been a real gentleman with woman, now I am just like a hungry wolf for craving for there bodies!
I disagree that thinking about porn is same as watching. I also dispute that your brain on porn said this. Please provide a link proving your claim that ybop said that. Thinking is not the same as doing . We are human, our minds have all kinds of random thoughts. When you move from thought to action, getting a dopamine fix thru use of porn or p subs, that's totally different. I strongly disagree with this idea that thinking about something is the same as doing it.
Thanks. I won't fail again though. https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reboot_your_brain "Fantasizing about porn is nearly the same as watching it, as you are re-activating your brain's Pavlovian conditioned response." https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/what-about-fantasizing-during-reboot "Fantasizing about porn you viewed activates sensitized addiction pathways, causing spikes in dopamine, which seem to correlate with cravings and increased restlessness. This increases the chance of relapsing and keeps addiction neural pathways alive and well."
I agree with Bob2132. I don't think "thinking about porn" is the same as watching it. Think about this and don't call me a smartass: when you were still watching porn, did you ever just think about the porn you watched to MO? Hell no! You watched the porn! Thinking about it isn't nearly as fun, right?! A larger topic here or theme I think is "what you think/feel about what you think about". There's a good general body of knowledge and guidelines to follow on NoFap, but at a certain point the only way you know if something has an effect is by testing it yourself or tackling it and what your belief is around it. And I don't beat myself up if an old image of porn comes into my mind. And you know what? I think it's working. Isn't that half the battle? Guys on here freak out if they have wet dreams! Imagine if we gave them the consensus that was a relapse?! They'd be fucked, all because we convinced them for their own belief system that they relapsed! Of course, this is a belief about how to believe and understand. Totally understand if that sounds off the rails and insane.
Ok so as you can see ybop says fantasizing about porn is nearly the same as watching. Before you said thinking. Just thinking could mean the thought just pops into your head. Fantasizing to me means you are intentionally focusing on it to get off. Thinking could mean nearly anything. Nobody can 100% control their thoughts. No one is responsible or guilty for just thinking something, in my opinion. It's important to have a sense of perspective, everyone needs Realistic and attainable goals. Telling yourself you aren't allowed to think something and becoming upset with yourself when you do is not realistic. If you can think something and then choose not to act on it, that's a victory. Learning to do that, to resist thoughts and temptation, is how we overcome our addictions.
The fact that you're thinking about images means that you are still viewing them too frequently. You have not gone on a long enough streak yet. Also, your ability to take charge of your thoughts is stronger than you might think. Keep at it! This takes time.
You can't stop the thought. Once it's there it takes time to go away. Acctually nvm u can stop it. Occupy your time in the slightest and it pssses
If i didn't start fantasising about that porn scene i woudln't cum i pretty sure i wouldn't. So yeah i relapsed
Everyone has intrusive thoughts of varying degrees from the crazy to the downright ridiculous but the thing is whether you put any action into those thoughts, ie: do you dwell on the thought or fantasy until the point where you act on it or do you acknowledge the thought and then move on with whatever it was you were doing? I still get intrusive thoughts from time to time but I don't act on them, not necessarily sexual ones some are just wierd! but we are human and humans have sexual thoughts, that's quite normal. The thing which isn't normal is the degree to which it interferes with your daily life or whether or not you act out innapropriately.
Yes intentionally fantasizing about porn is relapse territory. Yes, if an image of a pornstar pops in my head I tend to get upset, even if it's unintentional then it's still negative for your reboot. True however, you can 99% control your thoughts, which I did with my last reboot. I was determined to not think about anything sexual, so everytime the slightest sexual thought that wasn't about a real world woman popped in my mind I hit myself. I'm not going to pretend it was easy or normal, but I was that determined to reboot that I put my all in it. Going forward I will develop other methods to get rid of the thoughts. I'm ganna get into opiates and benzos which will calm me down.