No PMO + No weed? Calling veterans for advice

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Kvath, May 18, 2017.

  1. Kvath

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    Hi people, I started no PMO recently and was wondering what are community's thoughts about mixing it with no weed? Do you think it's maybe straining my will power too much?

    I've been doing nofap since last year and my last streak was 86 days no PM more or less. I wasn't focusing on it recently so it has been around 4 or 5 months since then, time in which I've been with a girl. I've been trying no weed without much commitment but recently it has been starting to be more intense (maybe because of the no PMO) so I'm deciding to take action.

    I want to get rid of all this nasty psychological crutches. I know that it's recommended to go one at a time but I'd love to hear from people with experience in the field for some tips and advice on the topic.

    Anyway I'm doing it with 100% commitment as soon as I finish this bag of leaves :p
    That should be around tomorrow or saturday, I'll keep you updated

    I'll keep you updated
     
  2. Jodo Kus

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    Good plan!
    I can imagine that those addictions favor each other pretty much. Is porn the stronger addiction of both?
    I'm not a specialist her but it could help to find your 'why' and maybe it's the same for both addiction: your reason to quit.
    What are your triggers to do one of those behaviors or both? When/how does one trigger the other?
    How can you replace the behaviors and the triggers (or: how could you react differently to the triggers)?

    Porn addicts are often destroying their porn collections when they decide to quit, maybe you should do so with your weed now. It's not a must but I can tell you, if you manage to do it, you'll boost your motivation!

    Anyway, good luck with giving up both at once or one after the other.
    You can do it! I believe in you!
     
  3. Enemjay

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    Destroying my collection helped. Thinking about all my favorite videos and pics but then realizing, " oh yeah, those are all gone for good." Is very powerful.

    Nice bogey avatar by the way
     
  4. Kvath

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    Man... that's a good question.

    I can say with certainty that if I let PM crawl back again it can be the strongest of both. If I don't pay much attention to it I can get to fap 3 or even 4 days in a same day (which happened to me recently and didn't felt good with myself after)

    Weed is pretty strong though. Something good is that I'm currently busy with some projects in my life so I don't abuse on it but it can be normal for me lately to go have a nice wake n' bake morning.

    My main reason is that both habits take away a lot of energy from my body. Be it PM by actually ejecting energy and resources from my body as weed just making me sleepy and lazy. Energy which I can redirect better to my music knowledge or with exercising or my work :)

    Much appreciated man :) Really, thanks a lot

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  5. Ezpz

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    Weed is still a dopamine release, you will probably find you wont even get much better unless you drop that habit aswell.

    I was the same and i couldnt figure out why the brain fog and anxiety wasnt going but i was on day 85 of nofap. I quit video games and all drugs and finally started seeing some imporvements.
     
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  6. Kvath

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    That's a useful insight, I'll keep that in mind.

    I'm starting now my no weed trial >:)
     
  7. IamRick

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    I agree with @Ezpz about weed being a dopamine release. My brain fog hit me pretty hard last week after I sparked up, thought it was just Porn but excess dopamine seems bad for the brain regardless of the source.
     
  8. Kvath

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    So far so good. Actually this no pmo period has been more bearable than the others. I'm still on the first days though and of course I have some urges but everything has been better.

    I've been also meditating since some months daily now so I also think that has helped. Yesterday I was having this major urge where I couldn't concentrate on anything and I just sit in some pillows and meditated for around 5min and then it was much better.

    I'll keep updating you people. It would be great to hear the experiences of other veterans too. Cheers
     
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  9. Kvath

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    So 27 days in with NoFap and 20 days no weed. Really good so far.

    Last week I was on my nerves and people around got the worse part of it jaja they know I'm sorry. I was expecting to have some depression/stress around day 18 and I think that was it.

    This week has been really good and last days have much more. I've been more relaxed and the urges are more bearable. Although they are still present I can concentrate a lot more and my mood is more stable.

    About that I've also been reading this book way of the superior man, which I recommend everyone, and it basically says that being horny it's ok, it's part of my nature as a man and instead of directing it to ejaculation (losing that energy) I should make it circulate throughout my body through breathing and transforming it into energy for my other endeavors (sexual transmutation). Really interesting and useful.

    Besides that I've been feeling stressed for some other things in my life which make me feel bad (work/money) but I just go on, not sure if that has been on the lack of dopamine on my brain or the real thing. Anyway I'm better now.

    In general I've been much more productive. I can get a lot of things done in my days, important things, and my relationship with my family and girlfriend have improved. I also noted that when I speak with other people I do it with my chin up and chest open (body expression of pride) for some subconcious reason, could be because of increased testosterone in my body (been going to the gym regularly for the last 6 months).

    I also noted since I've been meditating (also around 4 to 6 months 5 to 10 minutes every day) I can take better decisions and my mind is sharper, especially since I started meditating 10min everyday. I read that somewhere and I can really feel it. Whenever I catch myself procrastinating or doing something that's not on my interest I can say quickly no.

    Also happy to say that I can have someone smoking weed in front of me and actually offering me (a lot of ocassions so far) and I can say no and I actually don't feel like I need it. I've never been much fan of alcohol but it's also applying in that case. It's interesting to go to gatherings and not take any drug jaja I've also been taking a step back from social media and tv and have been using my free time more on the piano and reading.

    About the weed I'm here writing this post and I really think that my life has improved with these changes. I knock on wood but I don't want to go back to using it, at least not at the rate I was using it (daily). It just feels stupid so far, I mean.. it actually makes me feel stupid, like stupidized jaja I don't condemn drugs actually but I've been using the plant really bad :/ it has really been an addiction in my life for at least the last 4 years.

    I know I'll continue to use drugs throughout my life but with different uses (LSD, mushrooms, ayahuasca, rappé, that kind of stuff are interesting). In general I like the feeling of being sober and I've been changing my life and I can say I'm happy to fill that hole in my life that weed was taking with other stuff. I'm working on my thesis for the university, studying copywriting and how to make money, actually making money with some part time jobs, gym, gf, family, piano, reading... sounds like a cool life :)

    Anyway this is long enough. I'll keep updating people.
     
  10. Kvath

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    Was thinking that I could move this post to the journal section, could someone give me a hint on how to do that? Thanks a lot!
     
  11. Ali613

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    NoFap and No Smoking and excerising go well together trust me !

    You will thank yourself in the end .