Trying to decode "Flatline"

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ghost_Rider, May 9, 2017.

  1. Ghost_Rider

    Ghost_Rider Fapstronaut

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    Here's the answer @Hungry_Shark ,
    Karezza releases oxytocin and much less dopamine than orgasm.

    Thnx :)
     
  2. Hungry_Shark

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    These words should be engraved in golden letters ;) Bang on bro!!!
    Either give her sex once a week or force her to do karezza.
     
  3. Hungry_Shark

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    I got it . It makes sense now, Oxytocin is the key.
    Oxytocin is what makes a mother bond to her child, thats why you see its very rare for a woman to dump her child ;)
    So the key to make a woman faithful is not to give her orgasms, but to give her karezza ;)
    We should write a book.
     
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  4. Ghost_Rider

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    Now, this is some infromation to be kept very secret. ;)
    Yeah we should write a book and tell those poor dudes who are getting exhausted by becoming a sex machine and thinking that its the orgasms that will keep her faithful, infact she will dump your sorry arse as soon as she finds a better looking dude who can give her orgasms.

    However, its the oxytocin, that will force her to be faithful just like a mother is faithful to her child.
    These are really golden words bro ;)
     
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  5. TonyJones1970

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    @Ghost_Rider and @Hungry_Shark .. My wife always says one thing that if a woman is to cheat on you she will cheat on you because she has no integrity and commitment means nothing to her. A woman's sexual appetite can never be fulfilled since she craves orgasms and dopamine , the more she gets the more she wants and she is never satisfied.

    She also says that women who are run by their emotions and not think before taking a decision and impulsive are very dangerous to be in a relationship.
    However yes you are right,
    I am yet to see any woman on this planet earth that has hurt her own child no matter how evil she is.
    So yes this might be the key to keep your woman faithful to you and not sway , because if oxytocin coming only from orgasm would be enough then we wouldnt have had so many cases of cheating.
    Keeping a woman faithful is a big task, and her sexual appetite can never be fulfilled so you need to give her oxytocin to be loyal to you. Mother-child type of bond.
    I like this theory.
     
  6. Hungry_Shark

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    I agree with all you said, I mean if we look at ourselves, we were once addicted to Dopamine too, anyone can be not just women.
    So she is actually not in love with the dude, she is in love with the orgasm he provides.
    And because of Coolidge Effect, soon he wont be able to give her those orgasms, tolerance.
    Coolidge effect says - if you constantly have orgasms with a single partner you will get bored and you would want to find another mate to give you same stimulation, same like we need more and more porn to fulfill our desire to PMO, its same .
    However, when oxytocin gets involved, mothers stick with child even when the child literally abuses the mother.
    So yeah, i agree with what you said that mothers never leave or dump their child because of that emotional bond.
    And thats what hooks a mother to her child, even when the child is not around, the mother doesnt forget him ever.
     
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  7. Ghost_Rider

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    I respect women, and I have nothing against them , but women are emotional creatures and men are logical creatures.
    Women are run by their emotions, so one moment they say "i love you", and next moment they say "i hate you",
    So its all about emotions for them, orgasms give them good emotions (dopamine) and oxytocin.
    Since women have sex with one man over and over again, the level of stimulation is not present that once was and her orgasms are not that strong, and obviously Coolidge Effect will take place.
    She will stick with the guy because of "oxytocin" during orgasm, so that will keep her bonded but how long?
    Now here's where the "integrity" of a woman comes, if she has integrity she wont cheat , however if she doesnt have integrity no one can stop her from cheating.
    However, no matter low integrity or high integrity woman, no woman can be unfaithful to her child because of oxytocin , so Yeah, if you can give her oxytocin then she won't leave you. She will bond with you and there are several studies and married couples telling that, karezza has helped them got back together to re-ignite the love.
    So basically -
    Orgasms = dopamine = addiction
    Love = oxytocin = loyalty/bonding/forever/Happily ever after etc etc :)
     
  8. Fap_the_Fap

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    Oxytocin receptors are never fulfilled not will they ever downregulate till you die, so the more hugs and the more you love each other without orgasms, the more fulfilling and bonding your relationship will be.
    There is a reason why god created dopamine receptors to be downregulated if overused,
    but not oxytocin receptors, so the more love you give , the more those receptors will want and they will upregulate.
    So even god is telling us, avoid orgasms and love without orgasms and increase oxytocin :)
     
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  9. TonyJones1970

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    Sometimes, if we just analyse our body's anatomy that how god gave us organs and how they are designed, we can understand what God tried to convey us.
    As you said oxytocin receptors never downregulates, infact the more oxytocin you give them the more they upregulate such is the magnificence of God .and i agree with what you said that this is an indirect message of God to love and the more you will love the more love you will want .
    IMO the orgasms should only be used if you want to have a child , other than that its useless to waste your sexual energy whether be you man or woman.
    Orgasms give you nothing but hangover, constant fatigue and you always feel like you need more because of that dopamine addiction, I think NoFap and fapstronauts have really got to the root cause of every addiction and the problems created by dopamine,
    Specially by women such as cheating and nurturing her child . This is really informative stuff.
     
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  10. Ghost_Rider

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    I agree with it all, Oyxtocin is the KEY,
    Dopamine is just an addiction, Karezza is the way to go, non ejecaulatory orgasms is also there ,
    Everyday I learn something new here, and I dont know now I am kinda hating this DOPAMINE....grrrrrrrrrr.
    :D :D
     
  11. Decade_Old_Fapper

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    This post is the answer to all of my relationship and dating questions. Thanks alot guys. So from now on I wont try as hard in bed but rather start doing karezza . Maybe this is the reason that the girl Im dating is not so much attracted to me as she was before. Thanks alot dudes and best of luck for your relationships . Oxytocin is what I have to focus from now on ........hmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Even I knew about karezza but dint know how it worked. Yeah bro oxytocin is the key in relationships and loyalty.
    I have started hating dopamine now, its nothing but an addiction that makes you feel good for few seconds and then make you feel like shit for hours.
     
  13. Hungry_Shark

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    When you have destroyed your life, your career , failed relationships, ED, PIED, Social anxiety, Panic attacks, Anxiety and so many problems, certainly you wouldnt like this type chemical called dopamine.
    Specially when you learn so much about its ill effects , you tend to feel sick even when you hear the name dopamine.
    However, dopamine is not that bad too, orgasms are not that bad too, its just we did it out of control earlier.
    We were extreme in getting pleasure and choking our cock, Im not saying go back to PMO, but orgasms are not all that bad. We feel them bad because they destroyed our lives. People who have been fapping once a week or so dont face any problems and are achieving great succes in life and with women.
    Problem comes when you fap out of desperation and begin to binge fap like 3-4 times a day. NoFap although is a great way to live your life . Saving your sexual energy is the greatest thing a man can do, and nothing feels more like a man than knowing that you have your seed intact in you.
     
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    Nothing feels more than a man knowing that if a female begins to flirt with you, you can approach her without any anxiety and then take her to bed later and have sex with her like rabbit without any doubts that you will have ED or PIED. ;)

    At this point of time during my reboot, I know if I take a woman back home, im going to have a rock solid erection and im going to bang her pretty hard, But hey its still not my 100 %, and I want to be the best ;)
     
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  15. Hungry_Shark

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    LMAO. Yeah I get your point. Keep going strong bro :)
    And remember to focus on oxytocin and not dopamine ;) Enjoy relationships ;)
     
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  16. Ghost_Rider

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    Try to reduce your calories and sugar intake , that will make your recovery fast.
    Also, exercise , specially HIIT (Hight intensity interval training), they increase dopamine receptors.

    I dont feel hungry during the day, but in the night I feel a bit hungry and I eat in the night properly, Overall I feel less hungry than usual.
    Dont worry bro, you will be fine Just hang in there. Some people just need more time to reboot, every brain is different.
    Just hang in there, they will eventually clear up. :)
     
  17. Fap_the_Fap

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    Nausea, vomiting is common.
    You are healing .
     
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