Could PMO be correlated to sugar intake

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  1. truegrit

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    I have noticed that after doing PMO, my sugar intake is higher e.g. I eat more candy chocolate. I think this could be reinforcing my sugar and PMO addiction. Do you think these two things could be related at some level, or is this something that I am making up? So if you do think they are related then does that mean that stopping PMO must go hand in hand with reducing my sugar intake?
     
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  2. JustAFloorCrumb

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    I believe that when you jack up your dopamine, you obviously come down, but your body will crave ANY source of stimuli that will bring it back up to that point or further. There is definitely a correlation
     
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  3. Carbon Icon

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    Sugar and food in general is, like P, often used to avoid dealing with emotions or stress.
     
  4. GG2002

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    My partner has PIED and he also has serious issues with chocolate candy. Once he starts eating it he cannot stop unless I am there to tell him to. I don't keep chocolate in my home when he visits. He can stop all chocolate for months at a time but if he has just a little tast it starts up again and he can't stop. If he's off of porn he craves chocolate and vice versa. I am convinced it's the same type of thing.
     
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  5. Fatsodubmo

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    Sugar is 100% addictive, especially the refined sugar, and especially when it is combined with the right mixture of salt and fat. Too much refined sugar definately could contribute to lowered inhibitions short and long term, which can definately make beating our PMO addiction more difficult.
     
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  6. Lots of sex addicts notice they were at their highest weight during the height of their sex addiction. The relationship between food and sex is also undeniable, which is why many faith traditions incorporate fasting to curb ones sensuality.

    As for sugar intake and pmo, I'm sure the correlation is the dopamine response. It's very rare that a person only has one addiction. Usually there is a primary and secondary and they work to feed each other. An example would be binging on food after a pmo relapse, or vice versa where you binge on food which then leads to a pmo relapse.
     
  7. truegrit

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    Exactly. This is what happens with me. I watch porn then the sugar craving hits. Also when I binge on candy 95% of the time I will engage in PMO
     
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  8. truegrit

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    Thank you all for your help! I appreciate it!
     
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  9. This is a good thing to know about yourself. I would encourage you to work on limiting your sugar intake. I've done this by switching to a low carb/sugar diet. It's helped a lot. I still struggle with pmo, but not as bad. Just keep in mind though that limiting one will naturally cause your brain to seek out another source of dopamine. If you're not attacking the root of your addiction, then you will trade one addiction for another. My sugar/food addiction transferred to prescription drug addiction.
     
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  10. truegrit

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    Ok. I really do struggle with the sugar cravings. Like you said I will try and limit the sugar I take in.
     
  11. Fatsodubmo

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    One thing to note is that we NEED carbs that convert to glucose. It is the primary source of fuel for our brain. When our glucose drops we secrete our stress hormone cortisol, which among many other purposes gives us our hunger response. Natural sugars are GOOD for you, dont avoid them! These low carb, and by that I mean close to no carb diets leave us in a perpetual state of cortisol overproduction, leading to intense cravings. We often deal with these cravings with anything that makes us feel "good" meaning PMO or any other thing we are addicted to.
     
  12. So many half truths, so little time. The body has two fuel sources it can run on. One is glucose and the other is ketones. Yes, some parts of the body run primarily on glucose, however, the brain is not one that runs primarily on glucose. The brain can also run on ketones, about 80%, the other 20% that needs glucose can get this amount from a naturally occurring process called gluconeogenesis. The conclusion? Dietary carbohydrates are not essential.

    I had sugar cravings for the first month. These happen because your cells build a preference for carbs, since I had them for 30+ years, of course my body will have cravings when I restrict them. After a month my cravings for sugar were gone. This of course will take longer for women due to hormones. Regardless I do not crave carbs/sugar at all.

    Also adrenal fatigue is pretty much a myth.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997656/
     
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  13. Fatsodubmo

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    Wrong. Running on ketones is HIGHLY inefficient, and for MOST people not sustainable. Now if you are one of the 5%ers whose ancestors evoled in areas mostly devoid of carb sources ie Antarctica, then you are genetically designed to run on keytones. If you are like the other 95% of us, you are designed to run on dietary sources of carbohydrates. Im curious to knowvwhat your sources are for your information as SCIENCE tells us that glucose is the PRIMARY source of fuel for the brain. Ketosis is an emergency fuel source mechanism. Chronic ketosis for MOST of us leads to general fatigue, bodyfat gain, and adrenal fatigue. Again, Id love to see your sources for your info, because the only ones Ive ever seen pushing ketosis are those selling something, or those that are the extreme outliars in the medical community basing their conclusions on faulty studies or faulty deduction.

    Edit: OK, lets call it "adrenal insufficiency" lol
     
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  14. JustAFloorCrumb

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    After switching to the paleo diet and staying away from drugs and porn, I've found that I've been at an all time high in years, man.
     
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    So you go zero carbs that convert to glucose? How long have you been doing this for? Like I said, a small percentage of us can function this way. Ive been in the fitness/nitrition profession for 15 years now and I cant tell you how many people Ive seen swear by no carb life for a few months only to come back to reality. BTW all of their breath smells like deathly ketosis, their skin changes color and some of them started losing their hair...super healthy lol.
     
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    I don't think it's safe to stay in ketosis for very long, but I think the main concern here is where you get your carbs from. Quality carbs is key
     
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    Exactamundo! Its the processed shit that gets us in trouble by causing inflammation and addiction. BTW i love the article claimingbthat adrenal fatigue is fake. Why dont we just tell the type II diabetics that their condition is fake as well.
     
  18. Fatsodubmo

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    Paleo is A-OK. The problem is that a LOT of people equate paleo with no carb.
     
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  19. I've been doing this for going on two years. I feel fantastic. When I get home I will try to get you some sources. If you could kindly provide me with yours regarding your claims toward ketosis, that would be welcomed. Also if you ever get a chance you should checkout ketogains.com and their Facebook group. Lots of well versed individuals there who aren't dead, bald, or have gained weight. Lots of them have also being doing the diet from 5 years to 20 years.

    Of course a lot of the ketogenic advocates are outliars in the medical community. Most medical places are teaching shit nutrition and most of the information we have is based on the Standard American Diet which is high in carbs, so of course glucose will be the primary fule source for the brain according to that diet.
    Can you refute the article? Are you saying PMC isn't a credible source?
     
  20. @Fatsodubmo
    There is no Clear Requirement for Dietary Carbohydrates for Human Adults

    Although some studies suggest that pre-exercise muscle glycogen stores determine capacity for prolonged exercise [12], there is no clear requirement for dietary carbohydrates for human adults [13]. Current carbohydrate recommendations are based on 1) preventing ketosis, and 2) providing glucose beyond minimal needs. However, it is clear that ketosis is not harmful [14-16], except in the high levels seen in type 1 diabetes. Also, the need to provide glucose above minimal needs is exactly what has never been demonstrated [14]. Indeed, the National Research Council has not established Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for carbohydrates, probably because the human body can adapt to a carbohydrate-free diet and manufacture the glucose it needs. Nevertheless, some nutritionists contend that the carbohydrate is an essential nutrient. For example, Mcdonald claimed that healthy, moderately active adults require at least 200 g of carbohydrate daily to sustain normal brain metabolism and muscle function [17]. However, the author did not provide any evidence supporting this recommendation. Low-carbohydrate diets have been avoided because of the high-fat nature of the diets and the "predicted" associated hypercholesterolemia. However, serum lipids generally improve with the low-carbohydrate diet, especially the triglyceride and HDL measurements. In sharp contrast, high-carbohydrate diets, which reduce high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol and raise triglyceride levels, exacerbate the metabolic manifestations of the insulin resistance syndrome [18]. Finally, all fats raise HDL cholesterol. The relative potency of fatty acid classes in raising HDL cholesterol is saturated > monounsaturated > > polyunsaturated [19]. Thus, it is clear that replacement of total fat (of any fatty acid distribution) with carbohydrates results in significant reductions in HDL cholesterol [19]. Indeed, recent studies of carbohydrate intake and its relationship to the development of CHD and type 2 diabetes have been rather revealing, showing that an increase in carbohydrate intake is related to increases in both conditions [20].

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129159/#!po=4.83871