Anxiety after 30+ days of nofap ?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by daydr3amer, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. daydr3amer

    daydr3amer Fapstronaut

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    hey guys , so i'm on my 30th day of nofap , i'm flatlining at this moment , the only symptom i'm feeling from my flatline is anxiety ( and the lazy penis indeed lol ) , but i'm surprised coz the last time i was on 30+ days-nofap , my anxiety was already gone and used to walk around like i don't care about anyone around me , now i'm walking on the street like a hungry homeless cat :p or even in the shops i look like a thief haha i really feel the anxiety ...
    so my question if anyone here had anxiety after his 1 month of nofap !? or anyone have an idea how long usually it takes to be anxiety-free :(?
     
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  2. avatarivn

    avatarivn Fapstronaut

    Well, since my anxiety is generated by something else than Porn, I (on day 27 of my current streak) can't honestly tell. lol

    What I can say is: watching Porn really skyrockets Anxiety on amounts I still find hard to believe. So quitting PMO is another (important) step in dealing with anxiety on the long-term.
     
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  3. daydr3amer

    daydr3amer Fapstronaut

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    last time i went 1 month without PMO , to be honest , it was the best time i ever lived , i was 100% anxiety-free couldn't care less about everything :p i can't wait to get rid of my stupid anxiety again :(
     
  4. JustinX

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    last time on 30th day i was still in the flatline and I felt anxiety too. It was only after day 42 when my flatline disappeared that I felt like king of the world that can do anything he decides.
     
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  5. daydr3amer

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    thx for sharing your experience , hopefully i''ll get there soon :rolleyes:
     
  6. maz20

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    This may sound like NoFap heresy, but if you're flatlining I would recommend that you actually retry fapping + PMO. Or as I would call it, "re-cultivate" your sex drive.

    Personally, I'd only do NoFap for the so-called "superpowers". And that happens when you use NoFap to further concentrate or build up sex drive. If you're flatlining, then you're pretty much doing NoFap "just for the sake of NoFap", which is pointless --- otherwise, most NoFap "advice" would be more directly/honestly phrased as "Here's how you go about flatlining! And then you'll have no desire to fap (or much sex drive for that matter)! NoFap will be easier then, etc... etc...".

    The point is, you need to have a "large" sex drive before you try to use NoFap to concentrate/build it up. "Large" may be not be a very exact description, but I'd usually also phrase it as "feeling as if your sex drive is so large it even has a will of its own!". Since it seems (from your post) you've already experienced some of these benefits/superpowers the last time you did NoFap, the truth is that, by now, you already know how to somewhat transmute sex drive into other pursuits (even if you'd like to pretend you don't or forgot). NoFap has already showed you how to do this, so now it's not really a matter of doing NoFap (no offense), but re-cultivating your sex drive and using what NoFap has taught you to go ahead and do this transmutation.

    Or, in other words, NoFap taught you a lesson (and you had fun being in the classroom!) --- but now it's time to pick it up and apply it yourself instead of going back to doing NoFap expecting to learn something new. Another funny analogy I use is "An adult pretending they don't know the alphabet trying to go back to first grade because they had a lot of fun the first time learning it in first grade".

    Granted -- you may feel that you have spent too little time in that NoFap classroom and there is "more" for NoFap to show you... well, at least don't be impatient or try rush back into that classroom (just for the sake of being there, as I mentioned earlier) -- take your time and make sure you properly re-cultivate and prepare with what you had before if you're that set on "restarting from scratch" again. NoFap with zero sex drive is a pointless activity (it's just NoFap for the sake of NoFap).
     
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  7. tendency14

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    You have nice streaks, if youd measure your sex drive from 1 to 10 wich would you pick?
     
  8. ReturnToGlory

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    If you have an anxiety problem, you need to address that. NoFap may help, but porn and masturbation may have nothing to do with the underlying problem that is causing the anxiety. Or, porn and masturbation may make the underlying problem worse, but not be the cause of the anxiety.
     
  9. noonoon

    noonoon Fapstronaut

    The lie to end all lies. This man knows nothing about addiction. "recultivate your sex drive"? Through pornography? You don't understand this issue at all.
     
  10. tendency14

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    Thats right, the anxiety can be coming from something else, i have lot of anxiety but i notice that these anxiety levels drop almost to cero wen i stop masturbation or porn and i have more energy but not completaly related to sex drive, to me, actually masturbation has same effects as porn to me but thats me, other guys probably dont,
     
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  11. tendency14

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    Yes, i understand what your saying here, to in other words reintegrate to nofap like all pmo adicts do, but dont think it would be a good idea, because it would be more tendant to get a person fall into adiction like before or in other words its like telling a person that is quiting alcohol adiction(who can still be tendant to want to drink, not 100% cured) from a rehab center to drink alcohol again so he could get the taste back, and get into a rehab center again, that wouldnt be progress it would be getting back to the same place.
     
  12. maz20

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    + 1, I agree --- the idea of "relying" on NoFap to treat anxiety is a crappy one at best. I'd also advise to fix the root issue (granted he may trying to use PMO/fap on the side as a way to cover it up for himself)

    But since the OP has experienced superpowers from NoFap before, he is already familiar with how to transmute things like sex drive into other pursuits. What I didn't explicitly say, but intend to imply, is that after his earlier experience with NoFap superpowers he is unlikely to ever revert to any "PMO/fap addiction". Or as I phrased/summarized it earlier, "a sex drive with a mind/will of its own". NoFap just by itself becomes less relevant (no offense) when someone learns to do that. Put differently, once you see/feel sex drive as fuel for other pursuits (as opposed to just fap/PMO) you'll never really "just get addicted to fap/PMO" again.

    In other words, NoFap "teaches" you how to get superpowers / transmute sex drive, but it is not "a required medium/environment" for that. E.g., you may need a teacher to learn how to ride a helicopter, but once you learn how to do it you don't need to be in the presence of a helicopter instructor in order to ride one.

    As far as "recultivating" sex drive, it would be useful since that is what fuels those superpowers anyway. Abstaining from fap/sex/pmo somewhat disconnects from your sex drive -- this is why people sometimes complain of "flatlining" every now and then (plus "flatlining" is what happens anyway when guys do "nofap just for the sake of nofap"). Since the OP now knows how to use sex drive for non-PMO/fap matters, it would be quite resourceful to recultivate it (since the goal of it now is not to "only fap/PMO for it/do nothing else").

    Fapping/PMO isn't really a drug, it's a way to cultivate sex drive. It may become "like" a drug when the reverse happens -- i.e., sex drive that just makes you only want to fap/PMO and do nothing else (ok, the "do nothing else" may be a funny exaggeration, but you get the point). Same way, not everyone who drinks alcohol is necessarily an "alcoholic".

    Since the OP experienced superpowers before, he knows how to transmute sex drive into other pursuits besides fap/PMO. I'm just saying that now that he knows how to do that there's not much reason he "has" to do NoFap to do that. NoFap is for those whose sex drive is causing a drug-like addiction to fap/PMO; once you know to use it as fuel for other pursuits (not necessarily relating to fapping, or orgasming, etc...) NoFap is not really a requirement if those "superpowers" are what you're after. As I mentioned earlier, it is a "teacher", not a "required medium".
     
  13. I have anxiety issues too I can tell a lot has to do with withdrawal and I am even further in the reboot. It gets better but if it's serious like when you have downregulated nerve receptors serious don't expect to feel like your old self in the first few months.
     
  14. daydr3amer

    daydr3amer Fapstronaut

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    lol WTF is that ? dude for god's sake stop spreading this kind of crap . i mean no offense , but some members would use that as a reason to fap , you are encouraging newbies to fap ! idk where have you been the whole time but Flatline is a common symptom of NoFap and i don't really need to read the rest of what you wrote ....

    why you are so sure ? i guess i can handle my anxiety very well , and this kind of arrogant comments are not helping anyone here
     
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  15. maz20

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    Lol clearly you have a lot of anxiety with this kind of response, which also doesn't help your other argument of you "handling your anxiety well".

    Anyway, flatline is only a common symptom of people doing NoFap "for the sake of NoFap" (without a significant sex drive). It's not common for people who really do have issues with fap/PMO, since they will be feeling the opposite of flatline --- ie wanting to relapse all the time. That is also the time the latter group experiences superpowers (ie when they do nofap).

    Flatline is just a reality check that being male + abstaining from fap/sex/pmo does not automatically guarantee "big sex drive".

    Yes, I know it sounds like I'm proposing a "dangerous game" (ie going back to fap/pmo) but superpowers aren't free -- they will usually come with a strong urge to fap/pmo as well. Sex drive is fundamentally "sex drive" after all --- just because you can use or transmute it for non-sexual purposes (or "superpowers") does not mean that that is what it is ultimately there to do.
     
  16. tendency14

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    Im currently in my 9 month of nofap, its ben a while for me, in some way i managed to overcome some anxiety but doesnt mean i dont get some high testosteron levels looking at some girl, there are other ways to rise libido with no mo, personaly i like to think in the pretiest girl i saw in the day and for sure get some high levels but not necesarily by mo
     
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  17. I disagree with everything you just said. Anyone who's addicted will go through that flatline at some point. Urges have nothing to do with that, in fact urges might just be stronger in someone who doesn't have issues with PMO. The real key to overcoming PMO-addiction is self-control. If you understood how PMO-addiction works and what happens when someone tries to abstain from PMO (i.e. withdrawal) you would realize that urges are just a by-product of the addiction. The person who resists these urges and then goes through withdrawal, anxiety, depression, that is the person who realized that PMO is addictive and detrimental to his or her health. That's when you know what it can do and how powerful it is. Please show some respect for OP and encourage him instead of telling him that he has other issues. I don't know about you but if you ever have to go through the same thing, God forbid, you'll understand what he's talking about.
     
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  18. daydr3amer

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    i don't even have a serious anxiety prob , im living my life with no prob and i'm not the one who is looking for attention on an online community lol being anxious is normal when you are flatlining .. dude its not that you only don't know anything about the NoFap thing , but you don't even know anything about this community at the first place , i spent a long time here before i delete my last account to know that we all members here are like a family ,we support each other , if i'm ignoring what you write ,trust me it's not coz you are a genius and you nailed it , it is simply because it is nothing but a load of crap lol ..im reporting you by the way .. i told you already there is new members who come to this forum to read and learn about NoFap and everything you said is just wrong ! learn something before you play god next time ...jeez ,i'm done with you ....report
    now go masturbate in your bed , but don't bring others to do it just coz you don't want to feel guilty and because you can't keep your hands away from your penis !
     
  19. @maz20 please refrain from recommending that users use porn as a means to learn how to defeat their addiction. This site is dedicated to help our users abstain and quit using porn, and you're encouraging people to indulge in self-destructive behavior. You're entitled to your beliefs in how to deal with these issues, but your statements fly in the face of nofap's mission and may be quite harmful to others.
     
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  20. Suhail22

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    First of all I just like your sense of humour ..Secondly I just want to say that Iam on day 55 and feeling the same from day 1.I think we should allow some more time to heal from anxiety