Is it worth the effort?

What about strenghtening your willpower?
What about pure curiosity about the changes?
What about finding out IF you are addicted? by what I mean, can you abstain or will you give in like a guy lighting up his next cigarette?
Sex, and also self-sex are indeed healthy, but the constant compulsion to do it is not. Try to control your sexuality, isnt that a nice goal to strive for?

 

Sex is healthy, yes. But you have to see the big picture. Sex drive is something that drives us in many more ways, than just to "get laid". Sex drive is what drives us towards goals like meeting "the one" for you, building a family, get a good place for your kids to grow up in and many other ambitious goals. When you masturbate, you short-circuit this drive. That's what causes the lack of motivation and consequently depression.

When you masturbate, you're taking a cowards way out of what your body is supposed to do. Sex drive is like the fire in you, that you suffocate every time you masturbate.

Don't buy that shit about how masturbation is good for you. That's just something made up to turn us, males, into castrated dogs.

So the answer to your question about is worth it? The answer is: hell yeah.

Do you want to evolve in this lifetime or not? It's up to you. But if you're a masturbator, you're nothing really, but a short circuit. Don't con-fuse yourself about this "being a slothful cum-stained boy, who rubs his own dick, is healthy"-thing or you fuse is going to blow out.

 

This is copy-pasted answer, which I gave to your journal. Funny thing was that I answered this question to your journal before I saw this thread.

One of the problems with masturbating for me is that it makes the other person unneeded. Not only that, but it also makes much of my actions unneeded, since I can always reward myself without doing anything for the reward. So now after solving the porn addiction the whole point of this fabstinence is to give me a reason and motivation to take more active stance with the women AND to give me more motivation in pursuing other goals in my life.

I hope that I answered your question.

 

Trebor9 -I think you raise a great question. My answer is I think it depends. I have had some major problems with pornography and this has led to negativity in relationships and in dating. I once did 30 days before I found this site of no sex, Masturbation, or porn. I did not feel the need to masturbate, but I will say I was bursting at the seems, physically, by day 27. I wasn't thinking about sex, but I had major blue balls. This experiment led me to recognize that porn was my issue and that I really only masturbated about 2x, maybe 3 at best a week. But I would chronically be addicted to the screen pixels for porn. So personally, I don't believe I compulsively masturbate, but I do with Porn. I am trying to get porn out of my life. I have been fairly successful over the last year, but have had some mishaps. Mostly related to frustrations with dating.

I would like to start no P only group??

 

Simpe, if you don't have a problem with masturbation then do it. I know for me if I masturbate it will always gateway into explicit imagery and then porn.

It's like the alcoholic telling himself I'm ok with beer, I don't go do silly stuff with beer and it won't kill me either. Yet every time he drinks a beer or two, he'll be pouring bottles of whisky down him in no time

 

When I'm horny am masturbate I clean myself up and go play videogames for the rest of the night. Might even turn down party invites(which I did several times).

If I don't masturbate I go out, meet girls, flirt, have fun, get lucky, what-have-you.


Point is, I sometimes regret staying in, I never regret going out.

 

When I don't use porn, my masturbation becomes infrequent and natural. I'm able to be mindful and I don't continue till I ejaculate. I just feel whatever I need to, to get back to where my head and heart should be. From years of experience, it's so much less of a drain and a shame if I don't ejaculate. I've practiced continence since 2009. It takes at least a year to train your body and mind to contain your energy, but then when you stimulate yourself, you can draw the energy up to your heart and stop without ejac. and take on the world again. I have energy for people and love and accomplishments. Sex with myj woman is really amazing. Don't get into the habit of riding the edge alone though, bc your semen will start will retrograde into your bladder and you'll feel the loss. Plus, it's a waste of time. Masturbating should only be about 10 minutes with no ejaculation -- just a draw-up of the energy with the breath. Then move on to other things.

 

Just do what works for you personally. I think the toughest thing about this forum is getting sucked into all the pseudo-science and conforming to everyone else's beliefs. There are some truly admirable people here that actually have refrained from PMO for months if not years. I am not that disciplined. NoFap helps other areas of your life. But YOU are the progenitor. You are the catalyst that makes a career, multi-tasks and becomes the best you can be. And you are the only person that can determine if NoFap actually works.

 

"The hardest things in life are the one's most worth doing." This quote says all you need to do. If it's easy for you to quit then you likely don't need to do it. But if it is insanely hard, like it is for me, then it is one of the things most worth doing. Very practical quote