Hi all. Just hit the 60 days mark hardmode. It is been difficult.. not so much because of the urges but for the horrendous flatline, it has made me depressed, unmotivated, no drive. I know though that this is the most important part of the recovery where the brain is actually rewiring. Last night had sex for the first time since started this streak. Had 2 in a row, refractory period was a bit longer than it used to be but other than that it was good solid sex. Would have liked more connection on my part though (enjoying real sex more than fap and porn), but i know it is a process. I'm worried however that this 60 day sex might had pushed me back a bit in my recovery compared to full abstinence for at least 90 days? I will let you know what happens to me in the next days regarding feelings and flatline after having sex during rebooting. Cheers!
Oh oh, just make sure you brace yourself for the chaser effect in the next few days. The most important continue the fight. You have made it through 60 days. If you give in now, you will have to do it all over again. You can make it. Rock on
-Update- Still in flatline, sex didn't take me out of it. Very nice hot Girl I had sex with on Saturday wanted to do it again next day but I preferred to go out with friends instead. No urges at all to fap. Instead of freaking out with my behavior I tend to think it is just part of the rewiring process.. Looking forward to regaining that great high drive and libido I always had but in a "normal" or "natural" way i.e. craving sex with girls I like rather than burning it in porn or low level women.
The flatline has left me depressed as well. The feeling is just unbearable. I know though that it's all part of the recovery process. Today is day 57 for me and it feels great even though the urges just come on hard at times. I'll never give in. Keep up the great work!
Brand new here. I tried two years ago and made it to about 10 days. Had sex and I didnt realize I wasnt rewired yet and relapsed immediately. Now I'm trying again. On day two I am already agitated!
Yesterday had sex again same girl. 3 sessions during the night. Good sex but still can't find myself super excited or connected.. I used to fap the day after having sex by thinking about it and always got way more excited than the real thing, in other words fantasy + fap is more exciting to me and lead to higher levels of pleasure than reality even if it is a super hot girl (it becomes "too real" as weird as it sounds). I'm slowly trying to condition myself to achieve that level with sex only. I'm still in a flatline so that definitely plays an important role in the sex experience, hope to be able to get out of it soon, especially since I'm not in hardmode anymore it might take a bit longer. Most important thing is to nofap at all! Cheers.
I went a week with no P M or O. It was tough. Just had problem free sex with my wife and all is good! Horrible chaser effect though. All I want now is to MO or even PMO. I came straight to NOFAP for some guidance!
82 days.. still flatline, been having sex, good performance but no excitement nor connection. The high and ecstasy I get from the weed + PMO mix ain't there in sex. The most annoying thing on my flatline is the low energy and lack of drive, just want to get out of there but will keep on as I'm positive it will eventually pass.
It's my first. Started around the 30th day. Never felt I was dead in my pants, can perform and all but the psychological (motivation and energy) and libido areas are the problem in my case.
what I did to avoid flatline was take herbal supplements from bodylab.nl (was the cheapest that i could find). I ordered ashwaganda, horny goat weed, gingko, ginseng and catuaba bark. These supplements help your libido and reduce anxiety, i think the catuaba bark even helps neuroplasticity to rewire your brain and levels oout dopamine receptors. Google them yourself and see. In my case it avoided flatline, cant compare to not taking them ofcourse but i do believe they work, as a placebo at the very least
@Geladenwagen , i total get you bro. when you burn it up and PMO or just have an o its just something else. but thats also why i have slowing down with the smoking for 2 reasons. 1. i wanna have a natural O without any weed side effects (will smoke during PiV again after i achieve my goal). 2. just to give my brain a break, i smoke at least 4-5 decent size blunts for days and been doing that for about 4 years... feel like if i can do this i'll joy my high more like i used to (smoking is more of habit than for the actual high) and sex will be even more explosive than i could imagine.
I am not sure if it is a good idea to ''avoid'' flatline. I read somewhere that during flatline your brain basically heal the most. Somebody needs flatline it longer (more healing), somebody shorter, somebody not at all. It's painfull, it's depressing, it's boring but I can say based on my experience that when I went out of flatline, things were extremely better and improved than they were before flatline. Maybe it was just coincidence and maybe not ...but I wouldnt risk it, I would rather suffer it and look forward for better results.
