What? You are married, so why would you worry about loosing your sexuality? Obviously you'd accept if your wife was craving some other man, thinking it's totally fine, right? It does seem that you think that she should accept that you can look at other women while jerking off... But I guess it's not my business. Can't keep my mouth shut sometimes, though...
One day you will understand that i wasn't ar wrong as you think. But its not gonna be today. I gues I wasn;t even addicted in the first place, and thats why I fail to sympathyse with you or understand you. As for the website yes it helped me in a way. But it was just a part of whole clocwork of things in my life that led me to abstain for 4 months. And I'm going strong since then. Now the thing is this is my experience that I thought would be interesting for some people to hear, and I am pretty sure I never said to anyone do as I did, so no need to take it as instructions. Try to take from this story what can help you and not everything that I said.
Well, since you never were an addict, maybe your experiences are not to be taken as a success story at all, so posting here seems quite out of order. Since you can't relate or sympathize to addicts, your comments obviously make more sense, but obviously becomes less significant as an example or as advice. Apart from that, you've pulled off a nice achievement that all of us can be inspired by. 4 month is great! Keep up the good work! GBY, Patric
I really like this a lot, I think our perception of M and P is really determined on our own perception of sexuality. I'm not against pleasure and also M, I think it is natural for people to want to pleasure and explore themselves. P itself is an issue, I think a lot of it is designed to violently disturb us and make us exhibit behaviours that are counter to who we are. Its more abusive than pleasure. I think there is a lot to be said about objectifying as well in connection with P and M to some certain extent, but also theres plenty that doesn't have anything to do with it. All depends where your coming from, I don't want it to control me, but I also don't want to be a nun either! Thanks larrystanke your insight is really opening my mind about my own issues with P.
If a person doesn't feel self pity, sadness or embarrasment, how isn't it a succes story? Well, just read this.. http://www1.cbn.com/700club/truth-behind-fantasy-porn Even by happily watching porn you support this. all of it... And ofcourse there are thousands of other reasons not to do it but because you won't simply listen to people trying to explain all of this maybe that motivates you??
After my first 100-day streak I did a "test relapse", in order to see what effects the wanking would have on me after all this time. Obviously, having done it, I wanted to feel okay, and so I did. Then, after some two more weeks of abstinence, I got into the fapping cycle again. Boy, how I wish I had never done this silly test relapse... I guess I'd be hitting day ~365 today, and not even caring about counting. Eventually, for me at least, the struggle is about morality and your sense of what you do with your body and what aesthetic and moral values you support through your actions and choices. The superpowers are largely a placebo-based myth anyway. Today I am done with porn for good (can't even remember the last time I watched it - hell, I am starting to forget what a female body looks like naked, and I love it, actually), but shower masturbation is still an issue I want to solve. I do hope to make another 100 days, only without no fucking test relapses this time.
Interesting justification for your "peak". Well, morality comes in all shapes and form I guess. In any case, I think you should work on your relationship rather than resorting to P, if you experience a bad sex-life. Though I should admit, I'm not married, so what do I know.
i guess you mean't ''how IS this a succes story''? your article is great, and it also is one of the reasons why I don't want to watch porn. But you know becasue I masturbated does not make me evil. Food makes people obese, alcohol makes people drunk and aggresive, and porn is horrible, but not all the time and not for everyone the same. I don't support porn, it's just that when i did masturbate it didn;t do the harm to me, so that was succes story becasue I didn't feel it had controll over me. Anyway this thread is getting crazy. I was misunderstood and barely anyone gets the message from this whole experience.
Well it didn't set me back as it did set you back. Also if you have problem with masturbating when youre taking shower. Take only cold showers. I bet you won't be enjoying masturbating in the cold water . I used to do that, but I've been taking cold showers since the beginning of the year and I never even thought about masturbating in the shower.
We're all very happy for you, but spare us the bullshit of saying that you don't support porn, only just happen to watch it from time to time. Watching IS supporting, regardless of how much or how often. EDIT for the new post: I'll admit it hasn't set you back if you make another 4 months clean. But I don't believe you will. Anyway, all this isn't about streaks, it's about what you do with your life. Also, cold showers don't really do the trick for me. I take them for personal pleasure when it's hot outside, but that's just it.
I didn't say i wasn't an addict, its just if I was an addict I would probably react differently. Like everyone else, get misserable and depressed, but then again I never experienced depresion in my life. Trust me I would still want to watch porn and wanted almost every day since that time. But I have values which I respect and try to live by. That is the only reason I'm not masturbating. Not becasue I don't want to. Therefore if I feel such a craving then maybe I am addicted. Who knows. It's 2016 and people are labeling themselves as they like. How would you clasify a porn addict in the first place. Someone who needs porn? Well I thought I needed porn, but i'm not dependent on it. At least I wasn't for 4 months.
don't make me laugh. If I could make a decision to erase all the porn in the world I would do it. So I masturbated to porn a few times in almost half a year makes me a supporter of porn? Doesn't sound right. Cold showers. You think its a problem that you masturbate in the shower yet you don't want to take action to change that. Don't bullshit us that you think its an issue you WANT to solve. Hypocrisy around every corner.
Even if you did erase it, some other wiseasses like you would create new content in a minute, saying that they don't support promiscuity - they just happen to have a camera and a willing couple. It's our everyday choices that shape the world, not some nonsense hypothetical statements. As for cold showers: I get turned on by quick temperature changes on my crotch from cold to hot, so cold showers are actually a major trigger for me. Playing with temperature is just asking for trouble in my case. Besides, I never watch porn, so it's just my personal issue, really. Nothing to do with interacting with the world or shaping it. I don't see why I would be a hypocrite then.
Damn, this is getting intense. Anyway, this thread has been bugging me and I think I've come to understand why. What you did, Larry, is not wrong. It's weak. Now don't get me wrong, you have achieved something awesome by doing 4 months clean and that is in my opinion great and worthy of respect. That is cool. But the fact that you fapped is just pathetic. Seriously, bro. Here's what I mean. It would've been perfectly cool if you planned it all out from the start and would say that your streak is all about quitting porn and you would allow yourself M and O in the meantime. That's perfectly fine, hell, I once had the same thoughts. It's up to you whether you do 90 days clean of P only or the whole deal. And if you do the 90 days successfully you are a great man. But if you say you're gonna do it hardmode style, and do it hardmode style, but then fap it just seems weak, man. I did a quick stroll through your posts and saw this. That's from your post about hooking up through dating sites. On 22nd of May. 4 days later you do masturbate and you do watch porn. Is that wrong? No. Is that weak? Yes. I don't think anything's bad is gonna happen to you after what you did and I most definitelly hope you keep up that streak you have and wish you everything best, but the fact that you fapped just puts you down in my eyes. And (arguably) in the eyes of many others. Not bad. But weak.
Really think this is not true, I think a lot of people who are criticising here are getting up on their high horse. Its really down to how he feels himself about it, ok it was not exactly planned from what you say but he discovered something about himself. Some of us here on NoFap are not against M and don't want to abstain from it for a vast amount of time or forever like some seem to. I could go into all the ethical and moral issues with M, about sexual freedom etc but I don't want to because I think this is more of an issue of just letting some one be rather than judging them for feeling comfortable with them self.
Oh, I apologize then. Just seemed to me that you wrote that you probably weren't an addict and that you couldn't sympathize with them. Hope that you could forgive me if I misunderstood. You're welcome to do whatever you want(don't take that literally, though), it's not up to anyone here to decide what you should do or not do. But coming back to what I've been trying to say, not all of us are as strong as you(though it might be unclear if you're even an addict, in your own words anyway). That means that the kind of "success story" that you have posted here might well weaken a weaker persons resolve to end the evil PMO cycle. So I would suggest that you keep these kinds of success stories to your personal journal, and not post it here. It's a suggestion, I'm not in any way qualified to hinder you, but I appeal to your compassion for those of us that are weaker than you. GBY, Patric
I guess one has to read all of the posts of the creator of this thread to understand some of the objections raised agains it. It seems that the creator doesn't know if he ever was a addict, so posting this as an success story seems quite out of order. Since many people on this website are struggling to overcome their "compulsory" behavior, the kind of posts that this thread has offered might well give someone an excuse to jump back into the evil cycle of PMO. Obviously everyone is responsible for their own resolve, but this website is for supporting those that wants to quit PMO. So it seems out of order to post a "positive" PMO experience. It just doesn't seem to correspond to the idea of this website. Now anyone can have any opinion they want on this issue, but please be aware of your "surroundings". Edit: The initial objection was about the "positive" relapse to P, and not primarily M. In my opinion P is just a nasty thing, something that shouldn't be associated with anything positive. GBY, Patric
Ah was not aware of the other posts from earlier, I can see how this can be quite damaging to others. I will refrain from expressing an opinion about this any further & concentrate more on how I feel about PMO myself because the last I want is to do is incite people to PMO when they don't want to.
