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Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by BMDirty, Feb 16, 2016.

  1. BMDirty

    BMDirty Fapstronaut

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    Alright so, I am pretty sure I have PIED, but I'm working on it mentally. I have been hit with it pretty hard this week, and to fix it I plan to not touch myself in any sexual way. I am on day 5.

    Today was the hardest day, my libido was running full force, and to top it off my girlfriend was feeling hers as well.

    My PIED kicked in while I was rounding home, but for the most it, I stayed pretty solid.

    I kept my mental clear of fantasies and focused on her fully. I never touched myself, but she did bring me to O with her hand.

    My goal in this is to achieve and maintain an erection without touching myself, so does any think I hindered my progress with that? And do I reset my fap counter?
     
  2. WifeInTheDark

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    Ultimately everyone is accountable to themselves. Do YOU feel like this was disloyal to your goal?

    Personally, if it was my husband, I would be okay with it because it was an O achieved WITH me. It's the ones he does on his own that causes the problems for us.

    But like I said, you make the final call here.
     
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  3. BMDirty

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    No, I don't feel I've cheated my goal. My goal is to maintain an erection without ever touching myself, and though I couldn't maintain for intercouse to O, she did, and that is a win in my book. :)

    I just want to fully recover from PIED, and not sure if her bringing me to O with her hand is beneficial or not.

    I guess more worried it hurt my recovering.

    I am happy because she was happy, and that is a lot of my motivation to do better.
     
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  4. WifeInTheDark

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    It sounds like, if I'm understanding you correctly, that you're concerned about reinforcing those dopamine pathways that were forged through porn. Not sure how much research you've done on this. Have you looked through the links and research tools available on this site? Specifically the your brain on porn ones?

    My guess is that you didn't get a huge dopamine rush with your SO that you would have gotten if you PMO'd. As long as you aren't feeding the rush of dopamine, my understanding would be that it wouldn't hurt your forward progress. Maybe one of the guys could chime in here?
     
  5. BMDirty

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    Exactly. That is what I am most worried about.
     
  6. BMDirty

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    Honestly, based on my mental health and the love we made today, I don't believe I hurt any progress.
     
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  7. DireMerl

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    I think the usual feeling on here (after reading around a few posts) is that sexual act is that involve only your partner are fine. Some people suggest that it will make your recovery a longer process. Personally I think that, as the goal is to stop pmo and start having a fullfilling sex life with your partner, I would count this as progress.
     
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  8. BMDirty

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    Thank you, that was the answer I was learning towards internally after a day of thought.

    I feel better and healthier. I don't feel the guilt, disappointment, and my SO and I are closer than we have been in the passed months since I relapsed.

    Thank you for looking around for me, and putting in your 2 cents. It is greatly appreciated. :)
     
  9. DireMerl

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    No worries dude. Glad you're feeling more connected to your partner. That's the aim of the game after all.
     
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  10. BobDobbs

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    I got laid last night, and it was weird for a variety of reasons.

    There was NO dopamine rush at all. I'm not counting it as a relapse, and in fact I think it was good for my progress. I had absolutely no desire to PMO later, or this morning either, despite waking up with morning wood.
     
  11. Mera

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    Hello,
    I don't think you have cheated, but since I am walking the same path as you do I might be biased.
    As for me I know that the feeling I have towards PMO is different than what I feel with my girlfriend. We engage in sexual activity on a regular basis and I still felt the need to PMO on a daily basis. Since I came here and don't do PMO anymore I feel the withdrawl and I believe that it is a different desire than the desire towards actual sex.
    Even though I am without source I am inclined to believe that it doesn't hurt the progress and even if it does it shouldn't account to much.
    Sex is not PMO. You do get dopamine shots but you can get dopamine shots from eating or working out.

    I have one personal qustion though, have you told your gf about this? About your PIED? That you have an addiction and you are trying to quit?

    Stay strong and keep going.
     
  12. Life in the fap lane

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    I had a similar experience this morning but maybe a but worse. I haven't pmo'd in 3 going on 4 days nw and this is my first time ever trying to break away from pmo'ing but my libido and ability to ma it's in an erecting also my sensitivity have plummeted and idk what to do. My penis ended up going fully flacid during Intercourse which has never happened I'm so disheartenedand feeling so low today
     
  13. BMDirty

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    She knows, I explained it to her. I told her how bad I used to be, how I had stopped for a month before we got togeather, was good for a few months, then started again, which kicked in my PIED. She knows it all, I'm not to worried about it now... My boners are coming back and I think I'm on day 12, and knowing everything was working fine just 6 months ago makes me feel like I shouldn't take to long
     
  14. BMDirty

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    That was an extremely regular occurrence for me for a long time. My PMO died down and that died down a bit, but this is more of a permanent quit from PMO and just MO in general. I have an SO who is very willing whenever I feel the urge, I just want to make sure I can get it up when she gets the urge too.
     

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