Why are people on Nofap yet still focusing on sex?

Eh, I'm sorry, mate... a message from Itsuki, that was deleted... (I'm still not crazy enough to write random posts )

 

I did deleted my previous message, I did, I did.

Believe it or not, marriage existed as an institution long before western government. Also, you talk about religion as if you are not religious. You describe yourself a religious zealot for the cult of science and progressivism, give me a break. Letting everyone loose like wild animals and saying, "have sex with whomever you like, whenever you like!" is not a sound principle, dude, I'm sorry to break it to you. This isn't even based in religion, but history and sociology. Yes, connecting with others and sex is very important, and such an important matter should be taken seriously. Haphazardly killing every sweet, kind, and innocent untouched girl you can convince to sleep with you... woe to this person.

 

Never said that and never proposed to take that way... but if a man is able to find a woman (or viceversa) and they both want and agree to have sex, since this is not against law (at least in a democratic Country, as far as I know) they should be able to do that, without being criticized or considered worse people than others. Freedom (or better: what's is not against the current law) is the key. Religions were written thousand years ago to force people to behave in certain ways, most -if not all- the time was used/abused as a form of power. In some Countries these are still the "main law", with mixed results, but we live in 2024 and many of those rules have become obsolete (luckily) especially the ones referring to sex.

If the boy/girl is underage or have sexual intercourse agains his/her will, it's already considered a crime/violation in all democratic countries, there's no need to take religion into account (not to say that persons who are guilty of such crimes could also be religious, thus the deterrent is the human law, because if we need to wait the "god's law"... we can say "goodbye!").

 

I don't want to derail the original thread too much. False testimony to the nature of man and woman and the difference therein is not something I respect.

 

Discussions of religion and politics are against the rules here, anyway. So yeah, lets stay on topic of abstaining from PMO.

I would say most people here feel this way. Aside from the having sex with someone who isn't your gf. If you're looking to have causal hookups, and youre a sex / PMO addict (very likely if youre on this site) Id recommend against that. casual hook-up sex is a hop skip and a jump from PMO and worse things. Its mutual masturbation for dopamine.

Its like a hardcore drug addict or alcoholic saying, "I dont want to be a monk, sure Ill sober up...but I want a few shots every once in a while!" I'd be careful where that mindset leads you.

Check out "The Great Porn Experiment" on Youtube. It will help I think to explain the Coolidge Effect, which leads to this kind of thinking.

 

I can't see a real difference between having sex one time a day with your girlfriend or having sex one time (just to match,, but most probably a lot less) with a girl that is not your gf. You get the same dopamine rush with the risk that with a gf you would do that even more times. What you're suggesting with your examples is to not have sex at all to avoid dopamine which could be indeed a solution. If you remove sex at all, you don't even have the needs to heal, because you're not gonna use your penis at all.

 

So you think the only reason to heal is to have sex?

 

Well, I suffer from pied and that doesn't allow me to have sex... so yes, the only reason for me is to be able to have sex again. But other than pied, I don't have any other real problem to fix or heal, as far as I can see (no insomnia, no anxiety (apart the one I have if I want to erect my penis and I'm not able to do that), no problem in focusing on job/work)... so why should I practice months or years of abstinence (excluding pied, again)?

 

If you can't get it up, good luck finding or most importantly keeping a gf or wife. Its not for you, its for her also.

 

Most guys who do NoFap never had sex before. I had the same mindset when I had my first time, but I changed my mind when I discovered sex shouldn't be our top priority. There are more important things like health, career, relationships, knowledge, spirituality, etc.