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I give up on nofap.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by 123potatochamp, Feb 18, 2024.

  1. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    I have been doing nofap for years now. Due to hardcore porn addiction, which nearly ruined my life and worsened my mental illness, after I figured out the cause of my downfall was PMO addiction, moving forward, I discovered nofap. That's how I changed my life. It's not entirely fixable, but at least I could go outside, have a normal conversation without social anxiety, get myself a job, act like a normal human, talk to girls without anxiety, lighten up my self-esteem and there's more.


    But the consequences of starting PMO too early have caused me difficulties with sexuality and a loss of sexual attraction toward the opposite gender. Instead, I crave more real intimacy and emotional connection; it's just that I no longer view women as sex objective. However i have a fetish of transgender porn and thanks to nofap, i no longer view women with a dick anymore, but however i still had the urge from time to time, it just i view them as sexual objects instead of wanting to have romance feelings etc, it just my fetish just want to sex and released dopamine then that's it.... and my general anxiety disorder just been worsening since last year, suddenly i recruited back all the past events, of how i was doing while on nofap, cause i was still checking girl out and staring like her boob and ass on the street or through screen, bikini, whenever i stressed out, just to get good feelings and boner without having a gf and no friends making everything sound pathetic... and the fucked up one is twerking video, which later i completely cut off after i almost slipped up, it's close to relapsed. And overall checking girl out on the street and phone, which means dopamine released counts as P-sub, technically relapsed, I was like, "What? I have been doing it for years. Well, that's to say I just relapsed, not knowing? ....


    Just early this month, I had this doubt. Since then, I never feel like myself. I just thought to myself, I'm only focused on PMO besides anything else. I have no idea those things are relapsed as well. I could not believe this was unexpected. Nofap has been helping me so much; it was once my biggest inspiration and supporter. I depended on it too much, and now I suffer its dark side. Everything that once normalized is now a relapse to me. I no longer have the mental energy to invest in this thing anymore, and I also no longer have a problem with PMO. Just now, the only problem is that fucking normalize shit counts as a relapse which is scared of relapsed. I am suffering from mental fatigue and emotional exhaustion from these past weeks; I am unable to concentrate at work; I am not feeling like myself; I have ruined good moments... I had enough of this. I decided to give up on nofap. Maybe I am crawling back to my pmo, or else I do not know what else to do. The achievement I completed is no longer letting addiction control my life. Outside of this, such as relationships, friendship, loneliness, and being an adult, making friends is 100 times more difficult. I'm fat and ugly, with a terrible personality is the same for over 23 years of my life, nothing good have ever happened at all. I feel like my deep depression is returning for some reason, because I am losing the purpose of living. I have no meaningful reason to do anymore. It was a curse to be alive. I hate every morning I wake up seeing my ugly, depressed face.
    I had enough...
     
  2. HealingBodyandMind

    HealingBodyandMind Fapstronaut

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    There is still hope...

    Why not invest in a gym membership and maybe see a nutritionist?

    also, don't give up on NoFap either...
     
  3. Yin&Yang-Yūki

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    My friend is 70 years and did PMO for 53 years. He has a happy life now. Whats your excuse?
     
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  4. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    Hope for what? i keep relapsing over something, i thought it's not... well that mean no matter how hard i try, there might still thing count as relapse
     
  5. 123potatochamp

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    the fuck you mean excuse? I tried my best, to avoid PMO for years, who know looking at women boob and ass even though not nudity still count as relapse... for all these years i just wasting, pretended like i achieve something... all gone wasted
     
  6. HealingBodyandMind

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    In my opinion, as long as you don’t masturbate, then you are still doing good. don’t watch any sexual videos either, but as long as you don’t masturbate, don’t feel bad

    and there is hope because once you beat the addiction for good, then you will slowly start to change for the better and even kind of become a new person in a way

    so yea, there is hope, things can change

    also, if you don’t like your appearance, you can change it at least some. At the very least, you can get in good shape through exercising
     
  7. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    Like i mentioned, doesn't matter what kind of erotic (not nudity) on social media or real life, it never urge me to masturbate or porn, i just look for the sake of attraction and crave more of intimacy never urge to do PMO at all...
    Then there's someone would considered such these as relapsed, well that's make making doubt, like these things count as relapse? So i went to gym looking at those fine girls in yoga pant and on social media is a relapse too? Well that's enough then, everything is goddamn relapse
     
  8. LostSon41

    LostSon41 Fapstronaut

    I’d say that if you changed up your plan to count these things as relapses, you’d see a further improvement in your health and lifestyle.
     
  9. Learner09

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    Seeing this in real life is not considered a relapse brother .
     
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  10. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    I thought about this too... Like only looking at boob and ass in the streets and through screen is fine... However you think these can be relapsed or just lead to relapse?
     
  11. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    What i mean is staring in real life or social media yoga pant showing their butt on IG can be hot... Sort of stressed reliever too Then other said that is soft porn considered relapse, i was so surprised and speechless... I'm not even a monk wtf are these rules
     
  12. StandingTall

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    Far be it from me to tell you what to do, but at least you've recognized it as a problem early on in your life. As far as I’m concerned, looking is NOT a relapse, be it on the street or (perhaps to a lesser extent) social media. It’s okay to recognize beauty and feel those waves of attraction. It’s what you do with that information that matters. If it takes you down a road to PMO, you need to figure out how to sever that connection. I know this isn’t true for everyone, but there’s no way I can beat myself up every time I see an attractive woman. It would be exhausting and mentally draining. Like you said, we aren’t monks. Give yourself some grace, my brother.
     
  13. Yin&Yang-Yūki

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    He got out of it, age does not matter.
     
  14. 123potatochamp

    123potatochamp Fapstronaut

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    Yes, what if i purposely seeking out those things? Is it still count as relapse? Boob and ass (not nudity), gladly someone understand the situation, like i admitted what i did is hard mode, I'm not planning to cut off sexual stimulation completely... Ass and boob, real sex with orgasm is enough, it never urge to watch or masturbate like i said again.
     
  15. Rafafa

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    You need to change other things in your life, like having friends, and make other things that you like.
    Gym is good to like you better, but you need to know that God Loves you, and will help you.
    Be blessed. Jesus forgive ours sins with his death and ressurection.
    Try to go to a good church, you need to feel important to someone.
     
  16. Perhaps the issue is that you're making your life revolve around the whole "nofap" mindset, and in turn you're unaware that you're building a burden expecting that nofap would solve every problem you're experiencing.

    Unfortunately, giving up PMO and recovering from it won't eliminate all of our problems and it wont be a magical solution to pain we may feel in life. But its a cruical step in our lives to make better changes, to teach us more about ourselves, to give opprotunity to be better people for ourselves and others. Having our minds healed allows us to fix other areas of our lives and not have the addiction stunt us so much in the ways it does. As well as to help us navigate the struggles and pain we may feel in our lives, enhance the connection with ourselves and other people.

    Whole point of nofap is not just abstaining from porn and masturbation, but rather self improvement. You say you're fat, ugly and depressed and as well as having anxiety attacks increased, coming back to pornography wont be a solution to the pain you feel, it'll postpone the pain and only make everything you feel now worse. If you say you achieved the goal of beating your addiction, but being frustrated enough that you decided you'll come back to it - This unfortunately means you havent beat your addiction yet. We use our addiction to cope for various problems in life and i believe you're frustrated with it.
    Which i understand.

    You had said you're fat, ugly (though there's no such thing as an ugly person, only neglected one) and depressed with anxiety attacks. Your best bet, along nofap is to do some research, perhaps if you can see a professional and tell about the issues you're experiencing and create a strategy on how to tackle these problems. It may be difficult at the beginning as every beginning is rough, but you'll have to trust the process.

    Pornography and masturbation used to be your release valve, and now that you're so focused whether or not you're recovered, whether or not you had relapsed all of the pressure is accumulating but you have nowhere to release it, so you're on verge of imploding.
    You must find healthy habits to help you steer that stress away and release it. In turn such habits help you in recovery down the line.

    Ohh and another thing ....Relapse, no reboot is perfect. There's sexual material everywhere, if it happens that you come accross something NSFW, get turned on but shut it off and try your best to move on that's not a relapse.
    A definition of what's relapse is set only by you, you must come up with your own strategy and you must learn to know yourself. Its a process, we fail, get up, fail, get up, fail, learn from it, get up and keep going.

    It takes a lot of patience, take things day by day, list all of the problems you have, look for ways for solution, create a strategy and slowly work towards it. Seek professional help if you can and dont give up. Its going to be okay, you got this and you will make this. This is not easy and i applaud you for taking a lot of efforts to recover in the best ways you know how. Just dont give up, its doable and you can and will do it. It'll be okay ...
     
  17. StandingTall

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    Personally, I don’t even think purposefully seeking them out is a relapse, unless you’re acting out to them or it leads to acting out. Social media was super bad for me: I’d screenshot pictures or save them and use them with porn when I acted out, so in my case I got rid of social media and unfollowed any profile that might trigger me and it’s helped. But any looking that’s not associated with PMO is okay. Everyone is different. Don’t let this eat you up. It sounds like you have other things you should focus on and right now all this is doing is adding to your stress and low self-esteem. You got this. Stay strong.
     
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  18. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    I think you're being hard on yourself.

    Also, you complain about all the ways porn is ruining your life but then say you're not going to give it up. Reflect on that for a bit.
     
  19. 123potatochamp

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    I didn't expect staff member to see this, and thanks for your great paragraph. I will remember all of these
     

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