I Keep Relapsing, for Years Now

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  1. Diderik

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    I have been on NoFap for a few years and the longest I've gone without lapse was about 16 days.

    I created an Action Plan to prevent relapse with my counselor, now I need to put it into practice. One piece of the plan is coming onto NoFap, but there is a lot more.

    I also need a plan for when I get tempted. One thing I plan is to get out of the house. It's spring, I will go for walks. I can also try to get into a cold shower, although the shower is often where I relapse, so maybe not at first.

    Thanks for reading!
     
  2. A.K.95

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    What helped me a lot were motivation Youtube videos about NoFap ! Start with the following Youtubers and watch 1 video a day till you persuade your sub-conscious that NoFap is the new you:

    - Leonard Banks (my favourite)
    - Gabe Deem
    - Noah Church
    - Gary Wilson
     
  3. Diderik

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    @A.K.95 Thanks, I will check them out after I go for a walk!
     
  4. Monk Hasan

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    I've been trying to get rid of it for about 2 years. I realized that the only solution is to be patient.Especially if you have a background like me, things are very difficult.
     
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  5. frere

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    Maybe you can learn some type of Meditation to be able to more quickly realize when you are following and being pulled into craving thoughts. If that sounds interesting there is an App called atom

    I put a tiiiiiny workout (20 Pushups/20 crunches) into my plan against arising temptations. I can do it immidiately and to me it is something produktive, which makes me proud.
    Just my two cents and maybe some Inspiration for you
     
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  6. Ask1

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    What's your background
     
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  7. Monk Hasan

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    I started traumatic masturbation when I was 5-6 years old.I am 19 years old.I remember when I did it 35-40(?) times a day
    I struggled with gaming addiction for years.
     
  8. Diderik

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    @A.K.95 I looked up a couple of the YouTubers you listed. I have been watching those. I watched some YT a while back, and got away from it. It's good to do it more.

    I use the meditation app for iPhone called Insight Timer. It has addiction related meditations, which I find helpful. ACE meditation is also helpful, my counselor and I have been doing that. It helps with other problems I have as well. Also, CBT is helpful for my tinnitus. There is meditation based on that too.

    Working out makes a difference. I need to get back to that.
     
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  9. IR254

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    I am right there with you, mate. Been trying to quit for over six years and I am feeling like I am running out of time. At this point I am just so tired of failing all the time...when you try something for years and years and you keep failing and failing and failing, it kinda breaks you. At least for me it did. Eventually I was convinced, that I am just a failure in general and that I will never be able to do anything worthwhile. I kinda accepted that as my fate in life. I accepted, that I am a loser and that I will never be sucessful with anything in my life. Then I began experimenting with drugs and other things (got it under control for the most part), which made everything even worse and I became suicidal and misantrophic on occasion (all the time, to be honest). Being depressed AND addicted is hard, although the one feeds on the either and vice versa. It's a vicious cycle. I wish I had taken this as serious from the beginning as I do now, because then it would have been WAAAAAY easier, I'm sure.

    Currently, I am in a somewhat different place mentally, which will hopefully make this work out finally. I relapsed a few days back and I was not into it at all. It was just boring. I looked at the videos and felt like I was watching a lame sunday afternoon TV show or something. What I am going to say may sound weird, but bear with me: I was high on weed to be honest, but when I looked at the videos, I felt like I wasn't sitting infront of my computer but rather I was there on the production set. And that was when I kinda "looked through" the "acting". It was not exciting at all, but rather tense. It felt like someone would shout "Cut!" any second. That was such an asexual experience kind of, it's super hard to explain. Also, whenever I get an urge I try to objectify that urge (which doesn't always work). You know, kinda like take a step away mentally, look at that urge from the outside and clearly say to yourself "This is an urge". I find, that this makes the urge less powerful because you created some space between you and your urge. I used to experience them as one and the same. I though that I wanted to watch porn, but I really didn't. That part was not me. It was something else, which hasn't my best interest at heart. That's why I cannot trust that voice anymore. It's manipulative and selfish. It doesn't care about me. I refuse to work for that voice anymore. I mean, I might relapse again...who knows. But it feels like I had a much needed mental shift.

    If you wanna talk, my DMs are open and you are welcome to hit me up. No pressure though.
     
  10. Yeah these are some good nofap names. R.I.P to Gary Wilson! He is one of the pioneers of NoFap. And Gabe Deem from the reboot nation. Also there's Gabriel Bocanegra from YouTube, thanks to his videos I was able to advance from my nofap journey in 2017. Been on it since 2014.
     
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  11. Diderik

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    I've gone a few days free of PM again. This time I had better not just wait for the next strong temptation. As it is, I had temptations yesterday and today that almost got me to relapse. It is time to aggressively work my action plan like never before. That is the only way this can work.
     
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  12. frere

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    Good job on not giving in @Diderik!
     
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  13. Ask1

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    Wow one of them even charges for a course? Really?! No course can help you ink
     
  14. Ask1

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    Wow one of them even charges for a course? Really?! No course can help you unless you put the will power into it.

    Only a course can help you if you live on some rehab site and you're monitored 24/7!
     
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    Look no further brother, I'm your man for this task for I know what it feels like to repetitively fail.

    This is why I gladly share you with my recently published book that you can download from my website "Download your free book copy"

    The following are 10 steps that you can use to quit for good, or as I like to call them the 10 commandments to stop PMO'ing

    10 Iron rules to stop porn dependency from this moment

    1- Set your date and time to stop

    Set a date and time to cease masturbation to porn and carry on as usual right up to the moment you select to stop – Don’t quit cold turkey from day one, as that will make you feel as if you’re depriving yourself of something. You must particularly not think that you’re making a sacrifice. It is vital for optimal recovery.

    2- Look forward
    Remember – you’re not giving up anything because porn did nothing for you. In fact, it only made your life miserable. You get no long-lasting healthy pleasure from it, and it simply kept you in its belly for far too long – a slave to lust. Get it clearly into your mind: you are losing nothing, and you are making remarkable favorable improvements not only in health, energy, and money but also in trust, self-esteem, independence, and, most important of all, in the length and quality of your future sex life. You’ll enjoy being a non-porn user from the moment you go through your last session.

    3- Have a final PMO'ing session
    There’s nothing to sacrifice – you’re getting rid of a heavy burden. Watch your final porn video and make an irreversible promise that you will never watch another video again or view women on the net as sexual objects no matter what happens. This is the most crucial decision you will ever make because the length and quality of your future sex life critically depend on it. What’s more, you know it’s the right choice actually as you make it. You know that you made the correct decision, never even begin to question or doubt that decision, and never let anyone influence or shake you confidence in your own decision.

    4- Be cool about the process
    Your brain will eventually rewire from the effects of porn consumption the more you abstain from porn use, but that doesn’t signify that you will feel utterly miserable because you can’t have another sneak peek. The physical withdrawal is very moderate, and it quickly fades. Take the time to appreciate that you won’t have to deal with any pangs after successfully leaving porn addiction behind you.
    Slowly but surely, reprogram your mind to function without porn because it can and always could.

    5- Don't keep waiting for the moment of revelation
    Do not try to avoid discussions about porn out of fear that you’ll be influenced to relapse. You must be highly confident that nothing can reverse your decision. Go out and appreciate social events right from the start and do not envy porn viewers; instead, you should pity them. Realize that they will be coveting you because every one of them will be hoping they could be like you: free from the nasty porn dependency.

    No porn addict wants to see their loved ones PMO’ing which means they desire they hadn’t begun themselves. Recognize that it’s not you who are being deprived, but poor porn consumers are. They’re being denied their mental health, vitality, peace of mind, self-esteem, courage, self-worth, and freedom. If you’re ever questioned about your no PMO lifestyle, just ditch the conversation and don’t even bother explaining the long list of benefits of NOFAP. Do not cast pearls before swine.

    6- Think about porn
    Don’t try to resist thinking about porn – it just doesn’t work. If I say: “Don’t think about a monkey”, the first thing you’ll think about is a monkey? Just make sure that whenever you remember porn, you’re not thinking: “I am craving just one more PMO’ing session right now, but I am deprived” but instead think: “Isn’t is great that I don’t need to waste my valuable time on porn anymore and I have no motivation to do so anymore. I’m a recovered porn addict!” Then you can safely think about porn all you want and you’ll still feel no threat to relapse at all.

    7- Don't sneak a peek, not even one
    Never be fooled into thinking you can “sneak a peek” just one time to get over a stressful life situation. If you do, you’ll end up trapped in no time at all. Never think about it one last time; always think of the clean streak. Don’t compromise your outstanding achievement by dropping your guard down, don’t slack off. Stay vigilant and disciplined.

    8- Don't go on a porn diet
    Do not use porn to quit porn consumption. That will make it more complicated and painful to stop because it’ll enhance the illusion that you’re making a sacrifice. You can’t treat poison with poison. Get through your head that by going on a porn diet, you will keep the cravings alive and constantly suffer and end up very confused. You can’t heal a heroin addict by prescribing fewer doses of the substance that caused the very problem in the first place.

    9- Never doubt your decision
    Get rid of all the porn content and cut all possible ways porn might appear in your life again. You were already a non-porn addict when you finished your last PMO’ing session. In fact, one of the best joys of being porn-free is not having to deal with it anymore. You have put an end to your own self-imposed slavery.

    10- Once free, preserve your freedom
    You will soon recover your lost powers back but be on your guard not to get trapped again. If you ever think of having “Just one last sneak peek,” remember that there is no such thing, so the question you should ask yourself is: “Do I want to throw my great achievement into the dirt only to get back in the trap that I have fought so hard to break free from? a disgraced porn addict again, every day craving those perverse scenes ?” The answer is “No.” Why not? “Because I hated being a porn slave every day – that’s why I decided to better myself in the first place and become normal again.” It’s essential to remind yourself if you slack off and unconsciously drop off your guard. A little reminder every now and then works as a powerful inner suggestion and will do wonders.


     
  16. Diderik

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    Leon12 seems to have disappeared from the site after they posted this last message. When I begin to type the name, it doesn't show up in the list that always pops up when you type someone's name in.

    In any case, I will not be using his technique of doing PM 'one last time' in order to stop PM.
     
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  17. Icewarrior

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    What if “relapse “ is not a true description of what happens to us when we choose to pmo?
     
  18. BrighterFuture

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    Same here I couldn't make it past 15 days even though I have known the site for years now, it's good to know that I'm not alone in this

    I do also want to implement my plans to achieve my first 90-day reboot, but I struggle with following up, or I lose motivation fast,

    relapsing over and over doesn't harm, as long as you don't give up and stop trying to recover from PMO completely.
     
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  19. snowwolf0111

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    Diderik, i understand you in this. i have been struggling for years. goes well for a few days, sometimes 2 weeks and i relapse again. my brain keeps having porn images/vids and it is hard to turn off. but simply said, best is not to look at it. how hard as it is, that is the best solution !
     
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  20. Ask1

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    OK I'm on a ten day streak again as of today.

    Don't you think how quick time goes?
     
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