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Breaking a promise to another person?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Jirka, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. Jirka

    Jirka Fapstronaut

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    Have you ever broken a promise?
    I know that breaking a promise and not keeping my word is very bad.
    But what if I was pressured by another person to make that promise? And I was under alcohol and not completely aware of what I was saying? And now, 1 year later, my Ex still insists that I keep my promise?

    My promise was very stupid really. No idea why I didn't say no and just run away. It was about money. I was in a love relationship and at that time I had a high paying job and lots of money. Later she became sick and lost her job and wanted me to help her about money. And I gave it to her. But the day we finally parted, she looked into my eyes and made me to say a promise that I will always send her lot of money every month until death. I was so intoxicated that I didn't say NO.

    Until last month, I have kept my promise to my ex. But it's too hard for me to keep it for so long. I have blocked her number and email but she still manages to reach me through her friends. Fortunately the distance between us is big. I live in America and she lives in Europe. So she can't hurt me physically. But the problem is that I'll probably go back to Europe in a few months and then it's almost sure that she'll find me and if I break my promise, I'm afraid she'll kill me.

    I know that I did a big mistake when I refused to say NO and I made my promise. Now what do I do? (1) I can keep my promise and probably get in debt because of that, (2) I can break my promise and hope she'll not kill herself and not kill me, (3) I can keep my promise for the next few months until I meet her again, and then talk to her in person and tell her that I can't keep my promise any more.

    How did you feel when you forced another person to promise something and then she failed to keep her promise? What would you do in my situation? Would you keep the promise at all costs?
     
  2. JoeinUSA

    JoeinUSA Fapstronaut

    I would think a lot depends on the circumstances.

    Was the promise made before you were exes? If so, that promise might be dissolved with the other promises of staying together and remaining faithful. Unless court ordered, we are not financially obligated to an ex, although we are morally obligated to support children even when not court ordered - that's what parents do.

    Legally speaking, and perhaps morally, contracts under intoxication are not binding, and one party attempting to take advantage of another's inebriation is an abuse on their part, even; hence, such agreements have no foundation and are null.

    I don't know why, but it also sounds like your ex secured this deal out of a certain desperation or codependent neediness - all that is no longer your baggage once you are exes or continue to be so.

    If your ex was a wife who had disabilities, couldn't work, and for reasons you understood when you were together, couldn't support herself - AND - if the separation was your fault (cause you cheated or something), then I could maybe see some moral obligation to help out, but no legal one, of course (unles ordered), and there's no need to honor "lots of money...till death" (a tip off of her fear and neediness, perhaps) when you don't even have this for yourself.
     
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  3. Jirka

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    No we weren't married we were just in a long term relationship. Only after we split up I realized that it was an abusive relationship. No I didn't ever hurt her physically. But I did hurt her psychologically and she also hurt me. We didn't have children and she doesn't have any kids of her own. But she has very severe depression. I have no idea how to help her. And yes I made that promise when I was still in love with her, and yes I was under influence of alcohol. Maybe I need to ask myself what's the worst thing that can happen if I ever meet her again. She's writing she'll be forced to do sex work for money and commit suicide. And threatens that she'll charge me with sexual abuse. But I know the sex with her was consensual. And I'm strong enough to look her in the eyes again and face the consequences. Perhaps for my own mental health sake I must break the promise and stop, because every month sending the money and answering her messages reminds me of the past relationship. Maybe what I've done is only making her depression worse and keeps adding more weight to my baggage...
     
  4. 8BitsOfStuggling

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    Drunk or not, why would anyone ever make this promise? Let alone, why do you feel that you need to uphold it. Were you guys married? No, you aren't divorced. You don't owe her money. She is abusing you.
     
  5. SkyDoge

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    You are being abused even now, and the sooner it stops the better.

    You should not even concern yourself any longer with what happens to her. If that bitch becomes a prostitute or kills herself none of that is your fault. Those are probably empty threats.

    Stop giving her money and stop talking to her at all. Pretend she is dead and don't answer any of her messages. If when you move back to Europe she continues to make threats against you and you are seriously worried about being attacked or killed, you can get the police involved.
     
  6. grADD student

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    Did you know that even legal confessions of guilt are not admissible in court if given under duress? The two of you had an abusive relationship. I don't fully agree with SkyDoge that you should just not concern yourself with what happens to her. I for one care about anyone who becomes and prostitute and takes her life. What you should do instead is understand that whatever decision SHE makes is not your responsibility. Will it be emotionally difficult for you to face? Yes! But, if you are not emotionally healthy, your money does nothing but enable her to continue in unhealthy behaviors. It will forever be a vicious cycle. You made a commitment because of probable mutual manipulation. You two have a toxic relationship. Separate yourself as fully as possible and get healthy. Best wishes to you!
     
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  7. 8BitsOfStuggling

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    I agree with what you said, but I wanted to address this one statement. Does this hold true for Europe too? Which is where he and her are from. In USA, yes this holds true.
     
  8. grADD student

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    Oh yeah, that was kind of unclear, wasn't it? In the example you quoted, I wasn't trying to make a legal argument, but instead an analogous argument. It wouldn't matter if it was legal or legal in the U.S. because they didn't make a legal contract. I just meant that even the justice system understands when you are pressured into something. Therefore, since she persistently puts pressure on him, she is being unjust. I was using that lack of justice as a justification for him to not honor his previous commitment. Thanks for helping me clarify what I meant!
     
  9. 8BitsOfStuggling

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    Oh okay! Then we are on the same page. I agree, she isn't entitled to anything of his. Nothing at all.
     
  10. @Jirka

    First of all congrats on 158 days. ;-)

    I don't think that you are legally or morally bound to keep your promise.

    A. She is abusing you.
    B. You are not helping her even when you are sending her money.

    Reason:

    She knows that she misusing you, somewhere deep inside it hurts her too.
    (Do you usually feel good after you hurt someone?)

    Consider:

    1. Bringing her on the right track. (point her into right direction)

    2. Girls who are doing prostitution have usually low self-esteem and they are broken deep inside.

    3. I would suggest you would take her to see psychologist (counselling).

    4. Try to get her job.
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    But make sure that you don't fall for her again...

    This girl used to be in the sex industry too and she managed to escape it.

    !!!TRIGGER ALERT!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ZuzkaLight

    !!!TRIGGER ALERT!!!

    Good Luck!
     
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