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The falseness of P as a necessary fulfillment for those without a partner

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by brainrenewal, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. brainrenewal

    brainrenewal Fapstronaut

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    One of the problems I have faced in recovery is that many of the resources I have found are designed and written for married, Christian men, of which I am neither (but respect both). "Porn kills marriages", "porn harms your wife" and so on. All true. However, the targeting of messages to married men inadvertently left of the challenge felt by single guys, and in the process provides a rationalizing excuse.

    The false rationalization is "It's all well and good to say that porn harms marriages, but what about those of us who are single? What about us who are socially awkward or not conventionally attractive and will probably never be married? P might be my only way to ever experience my sexuality and have sexual expression in my life. It' so easy for Mr. Married Pastor (who's getting laid on the regular with Mrs. Pastor) to dictate to awkward, guy like me."

    I've experienced this reasoning. I have a developmental disorder which can inhibit my social functioning and coordination. In fact, I've even seen some disability advocates campaign *against* laws restricting extreme pornography, because "porn's the only way to feel sexuality." I can see where they are coming from, and sympathize, but I think it's wrong, and here's why.

    Porn as an addictive dynamic happens independently of whether one has a regular sexual partner. Just because someone has a regular supply of chocolate does not mean that they will not get hooked on heroin. Just because someone has abudant sex does not mean they will not get hooked on porn. Porn works on its own sick logic.

    When I have been single and lonely, I've craved porn.

    I am now blessed to be in a relationship (not boasting, just contextualizing) with a woman I find to be strikingly beautiful, more beautiful than porn stars. I still crave porn.

    I've been in a relationship with a woman who had a stronger sexual appetite than my own. I still craved porn.

    I've been isolated, I've craved porn.

    The amount of sexual activity in my life had zero effect on my porn craving. It's not about sexual satiety. It is about craving for a drug.
     
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  2. Vijay R

    Vijay R Fapstronaut

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    Porn harms your brain.. Irrespective of married or unmarried.

    Hence NoFap is for all....
     
  3. Pureheart

    Pureheart Fapstronaut

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    Well, I think if a guy never uses porn and masturbates a few times a month without visual or auditve input, but perhaps, thinks while doing it of a beloved person it can be considered healthy.
    But for us, and others who have linked porn and masturbation for a long time it is best to leave out both as long as possible
     
  4. brainrenewal - i completely get what you mean. Is is difficult for me to identify with some of the posts I read and some of the other web resources I have come across. I am neither married and christian nor am I heterosexual. Because of that, mostly the latter, it is almost expected that I lead some unapologetic sexually charged life. That simply is not me.

    Before I go on a long winded response - congrats on having a relationship with someone that you are very attracted to. That is fantastic. Continued work on the porn problem may truly allow you to continue building a relationship with this woman.

    With the exception of a two year relationship, I have spent my entire adult life as single or dating very casually. I'm socially awkward too and further, I won't date just for the sake of dating. I don't feel "alone" or like "I don't have anybody". It's easier for me to be single than to try and decipher the confusion and awkwardness I experience with people I have tried dating. I have great friends. I have fun hobbies. I have a decent job that is intellectually stimulating. My life feels pretty full most days.

    Honestly, I've never felt the craving for porn and I think it is because I have never, EVER, taken it out of my life. It has always been there since I was a teen. Until starting nofap, When I had thoughts during the day, I would sometimes look at pics on my phone, but for the most part I am able to delay the compulsion until later in the day when I am alone. I would inevitably watch porn every night. It wasn't even a thought. I just did it, just like I brush my teeth before bed and have coffee the moment I wake up. It's about patterns, visual stimulus and reward.

    You hit it on right on the head there. Porn does have it's own sick logic.

    Until recently, I had never even made the connection that porn was most likely the reason for my sexual dysfunctions, which lead to more social awkwardness, especially during truly intimate occasions. I blamed the dysfunction on medications for depression and adhd, being tired and having an unrelenting stress level (usually due to the depression and adhd). Even when those things are stable, the problem exists.

    Because I'm awkward, live a single life and have ED it only made sense to just go on that way. Staying close to my friends and keep my porn habit going was a natural inclination for me. It made complete sense. But that can only work for so long. I recently went on a date with a very nice person and on the second date it came to sex. It did nothing for me. More accurately, I was able to do nothing. While on that second date I actually thought "hmmm, maybe I'll just go home [and watch PORN], at least I will get off".

    I have had that same feeling on several first or second dates. Because I was thinking about the inability to perform and i could just watch porn when i got home, I had no regard for the other person or their feelings. None at all.

    That was my breaking point.. My porn problem doesn't just affect me, but others too.

    I ignored the continued feeling of shame by watching more porn and have O's that are mediocre at best. My body and brain have learned about sex from porn, not learning from/with another person how to have truly good sex, whatever that is.

    I could write about this for days. I'm going to continue on my 11th day w/o PMO focusing on other things I enjoy. I'm going to do a 15 mile bike ride. That is really all I care about today.
     
  5. jason3

    jason3 Fapstronaut

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    I think you are so right. Porn is in no way a replacement for sex. Porn is not about sexual satisfaction. Not really.
    That's why 10 million Christian men living on porn think getting married will solve their problem and it doesn't. Porn like so many other things-that I would call idols--have their own sick logic.
    That's why Christians need to stop thinking about it in terms of just hurting my wife. Porn from a Christian perspective is a God-replacement. We treat it like a God to control and use and it does nothing but drag us down into its abyss.
     

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