How do you think about masturbation?

Be strong bro. Even if you must: change your smart phone with some "idiot" phone. Forget about internet. And keep going. But be strong. With luck bro

 

Thank you, my friend. I really appreciate it. And the best of luck to you too. We can kick this thing forever if we all support one another and stay strong. Masturbation = bad. Purity = Good.

 

Yes bro! Thanks for your positive energy. We are all here good people. We are fallen angels. And this is most importan test in our life! We can do this!

 

Hi!

Since I read an article recently which fits quite good to this, I'll post that here. Can't find the exact link anymore though. It was a newer post which was backed up with some research results. The following article has some same claims and points into the same direction:

http://theconversation.com/happy-news-masturbation-actually-has-health-benefits-16539

What do think about such articles?

I mean, of course masturbation is bad for addicts, so for me as well. But I'm confused now. Maybe just the combination of porn and masturbation is really bad and addictive, but no idea.
Yeah for me and for most of the people in this forum, masturbation is a waste of energy, but maybe only because we're doing it in combination with porn and way too often.
Pls. no shitstorm, I tried to describe it as objective as possible, I don't say masturbation is a good thing, basically I'm just confused after reading such articles which not even mention that it can be a huge problem for people like us. I think it would be interesting to see some research which is analysing the probability of getting addicted to porn or masturbation (excluding porn too) to see how many people actually get addicted by this or how much they need to consume porn or masturbate to get addicted.

 

I might can shed some light. The thing about prostate cancer can come from sperm crystalizing, this happens from blue balls or being on the verge or orgasm and not so in the balls sperm doesn't crystalize. Edging is a good way to experience the pain of blue balls, it isn't pleasant. Your body flushes out old sperm on it's on. One way is called a wet dream when it does. Reading further there is plenty that is crap. It is a .com website not a .org or .gov so anyone can write something like that. A lot of those problems of low self esteem, blood pressure, depression, immune system health can be fix by a proper diet, exercise, and getting a good sleep schedule 7-8 hours a night. I have never masturbated and said ok now I have confidence, have you? And the help of depression, it can feel good in the moment but if you are depressed that will come right back. Now, the blood pressure, it might lower it because when you masturbate it gets your blood pumping. Exercise also does that, a lot better than sitting the wacking it. Hopefully that helps some.

 

Sounds to me that he just wants to justify his addiction.

 

That,my friend is the worst advice anyone can give you in your life.Have you known any guy who has ever become healthy by masturbating or a guy who got prostrate cancer from not masturbating?If the former were the case, most of the guys who come here would live forever or be Mr.Universe.
People say that masturbation can help you relieve yourself,but in my opinion it's the exact opposite.That relief is temporary,long term it instead increases the urges.That's what i have experienced and know.Instead, not masturbating in my experience is more beneficial for you.More energy,not just physically but spiritually and mentally.Isn't that's what commonly advised to wrestlers and boxers and other competitive sports?Channel your energies and thoughts in a more constructive manner and your life will bloom.

 

I agree with you @Ray Breslin Masturbation is onania - sin by the bible! If we need to put our semen out of the body, we will make that in dream, wet dream, that is proces from the nature. Or, better option, we will find some cute girl... Fuck masturbation and forgive porn! No PMO for live

 

I think it's a waste of time. It's not a relief, it's a way to release more dopamine in your brain. There are healthier ways to do that without getting horrible side effects like ED or PE.

 

Yeah man.Today is world no tobacco day and i saw a really good advice related to it somewhere. It said "It's difficult to quit.Never start".
This i feel,applies to masturbation as well and i wish somebody had told me this when i was 13.We've all heard the advice to abstain from gambling,smoking,drugs,women(womanizing,debauchery) etc.However, i never knew that when they said "women" they also meant masturbation.Too late by the time i realized.I'm against using a "cute girl" or any person for that matter, to relieve oneself if that's what you mean?

 

Yeah, everything @Ray Breslin said.
I know my life would have been so much easier if I had never started masturbation in the first place.

 

I mostly agree with your previous posts, I just want to add something. I don't really think never masturbating is an option. Kids masturbate as they grow and discover their bodies. You can't do much to prevent that, nor should you. Denying a kid to discover his/her own body by saying that it's dirty, or wrong or something will not help at all. Either they reject what you say and because the forbidden fruit is always sweeter, and they will do it anyway in a more intense way, or they will obey you, but will probably develop some kind of fear from their own body parts or feelings (like arousal) and they'll mess up their thinking, and tadaa, you have a child growing with mental or sexual dysfunctions. You don't want that.

I don't know about you guys, but I can remember a certain period in my life, when unconscious masturbation became conscious. Like, before that I had no idea I was masturbating, I was just touching myself, and it felt good. Whatever. But when I was around 11 or 12, I became conscious about what I was doing. Then I started to MO regularly, then PMO, and I've never heard that it's problematic until I was like 25.

So maybe the solution would be to educate that age section more? When innocent discovery become intentional self-pleasure? But to be honest, I have no idea how would you convince a 10-13 year old that what they are doing will have serious consequences.
Anyway I just wanted to point out that not starting masturbation would be ideal, but in reality, it may not be possible. What do you think?

 

I totally understand what you say man.I've thought about this a lot of times.
I 100% get and agree with what you're saying about kids discovering their own body and stuff.This however i think needs to happen in a healthy manner,perhaps educating them as you suggested?Channeling those energies in a more constructive way?I feel it shouldn't develop into an addiction or watching porn,oversexualizing and objectifying the opposite sex in your head,voyeurism etc.That would be prove to be pretty detrimental to a child .I myself have not been able to come to a reasonable answer in this area whenever i've thought about it.

 

Because there is probably none. I mean, let's look at smoking. There are people who are addicted to cigarettes, right? I think multiple religions have already stated that being addicted is not desirable. The Bible states it, and probably some other texts as well. Now 2000 something years later science also proved that being addicted is a problem. Technically it has been proven both physically (scientifically) and spiritually (religiously) that smoking (addiction) is bad. Yet, there are still a lot of people addicted to smoking. The negative effects of it are crystal clear, and still.
So you probably can't prevent people to get addicted to porn or masturbation, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to warn everyone. For myself, I have never heard about porn and/or masturbation while I grew up. I'm not saying that if I have had heard about it, I'd have done things differently, but I hadn't had the opportunity to choose, right?

 

That exactly what i'm saying bro.What i meant about not starting with masturbating,i meant in context to myself.I had no idea about what i was doing.If i knew what i know now i might not have done it or with whatever i can remember about myself back then,maybe done it in a more controlled manner?
Not masturbating at all is the choice i've made now for me.It's not just because of the physical but moral reasons as well.Even more so because of the moral reasons.
Mostly i don't even talk about the moral reasons because that like almost everything in life,is individual choice.

 

I read this thread and the various viewpoints. I understand them all as well.

It has been my experience that Masterbation is so #%€}# wrong, sinful and deserving of the harshest punishment society can muster. But that's been my upbringing. Guilt and shame are at toxic levels today because of performing this dastardly deed I so habitually crave.

My 3rd grade teacher called home and told my parents I needed to keep my hands away from myself (pocket pool). When I got home, my momma was in one of her rants and rages over the call. She cornered me in the kitchen, threatened me with a knife and castration if I didn't stop. What I do remember was getting a fat lip from the back of her hand. ( God, rest her soul ). I did stop public displays of the act. Isolation became a close friend after that.

I have loved something that I had hated. How can the two co exist? A love/hate relationship. Then years later porn was introduced. Another layer to cover the roots of insecurity and FEELING of abandonment etc...

Guilt and shame are friends of mine. I hate them with a passion. After all these years, mixed with porn, I now live with the devastating effects of porn and secret sexual sin ( behaviors)

Ask me if Masterbation is wrong and I will flat out tell you no lies. It's so friggin wrong, the toxicity of the shame is killing me. But I guess it's not as critical to stop the FPMO. I must be the lamest, stupidest man on planet earth. There I go again with the insecurities.

I need Masterbation ERADICATED from my humanity!!!!!

Yet I hear nature calling, it seems so ROSIE.

Fun for only a seasonal moment in time, then the avalanche of guilt and shame.

The cycle continues.........

 

I come to the conclusion that masturbation is kind of normal when people are growing up and explore their bodies (what is working how, what do I like etc.) Masturbation at it's own is not the root cause of the problems we have. Difficulties just arise when porn of any kind is getting involved in an uncontrolled manner. We can't prevent the spreading of porn. Even our kids will get in touch with porn eventually and we can't do anything about it. I'm really against untrue religious advises that it's a really bad habit and tell kids hair might grow on your palms when you masturbate to prevent masturbating. False statements make everything worse and tease the kids to do it. Even advises from people who are already addicted like us might not be optimal. You guys were totally right, the only answer is EDUCATION for kids in schools and parents as well. Kids should be able to understand the risks of watching porn regularly and parents should learn to talk to their kids in an open fashion about such sexual topics. Normally people already have a serious problem when they visit that page. Only prevention and the right sex education can help and then everybody is on it's own, like everybody can decide to smoke or not nowadays.
Thanks for discussion guys.