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If your goal is the quit porn forever You will fail if you do not know this

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. There is Only two situations where you can quit porn forever

    situation 1: your needs are satisfied by a partner
    situation 2:your needs are satisfied by masturbation using your imagination

    if you do not satisfy your needs, its only a matter of time before you relapse and PMO.

    its perfectly healthy to have sex and masturbate if you do it correctly but it is never healthy to watch porn
     
  2. MasterPablo

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    1 day. That explains a lot.
     
  3. Infinite spirit

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    Well..i will choose the most badass choice..no sex for now..no porn..no masturbation..isn't that fantastic !?

    Ps..your needs are never truly satisfied by PMO..or MO ..it's only satisfied through real sex.

    Sorry..but I completely disagree with you.
     
  4. Talove

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    This is just false, sexual energy is a strong basis energy and it is channeled through us. You can channel it to whatever you want. You don't have to dissolve it by ejaculating with either masturbation or sex. There are certain sexual methods(tantra or magick sex) that can actually increase your sexual energy during sex and not dissolve it. These methods involve suppressing ejaculation. Or you can just use this energy for anything else in life. This is why when you abstain from masturbation and full orgasms you feel more alive. Which means you will feel more negative feelings as you will positive. But as long as you face and handle the negative(which we all have), there is only positive to come from Nofap. Its a test of strength and endurance that just existing brings to you. We are suppose to suffer as much as we are supposed to feel joy. But you have to be able to handle the suffering to fully appreciate the joy.
     
  5. what does it explain?, just because im on day one doesn't mean i haven't made it to 500+
     
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  6. its fine to disagree but first, here me out
    i'm not against NO PMO, i am doing it right now, its what i recommend. , but i see it time and time again people relapsing by PMO at days 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 feeling like they failed and turn back to porn and binge, and loose there progress. falling back to porn is inevitable if you do not accept you need to release. (its not sustainable to quit PMO forever!,however its is sustainable to quit porn forever)

    i am NOT saying use MO or O to cover your PMO addiction. i'm simply saying when its time to release after 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 days do it by masturbating or sex then get back to doing no PMO for another 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 days.

    MO after 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 days, can be a very good thing for people with performance anxiety, every time you go a long streak like 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 days you will perform good in MO and, when you keep doing this going 40,60 90,95,120,155,240 days then MO it will be embedded in your memory(subconscious) that every time you MO you have great erections. all the time your mind is RE-sensitizing due to not watching porn.

    like i said healthy sex is the preferred option, but like PMO and MO don't make it an addiction.

    you need to learn to live without porn not beat a 90day challenage.
     
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  7. be realistic people will need to release and will fall back to PMO. i seen it happen many times. when your about to pmo i dont think people are going to be thinking to use there sexual energy for something else in life. if thats even possible and somehow they decide to do that, its just going to delay the inevitable.
     
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  8. HugoBoss

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    Or situation 3:
    You satisfy your needs by doing well at school / your work, by saving money and by achieving your goals
    (Whether it's a house in Malibu, a new car, a girlfriend or 90 days without PMO)
     
  9. Infinite spirit

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    There is no such thing as "you need to release"..as if you are holding your shit or starving or dying of thirst. Sexual desire is not like food and water..if you don't eat or drink you will die..but you can go your whole life without ejaculating voluntary.. ofcourse..if you don't fap or watch porn or have sex. .your body will "release " during wet dreams. In conclusion..sex is the only way you are allowed to have a voluntary orgasm..if not.. you will have it involuntary during sleep. No proplem.no need to go back to pmo or mo cuz it's ruining your life..for sanity sake!!
     
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  10. physical need to ejaculate
     
  11. That fact is that that is a limiting belief! Why limit yourself to only two possibilities? Why can't you quit porn forever for a different reason?

    A person who limits himself to only two paths is bound to find that they both lead to dead ends.

    I have chosen to quit porn forever for what I see as all the right reasons, and they have nothing to do with having a partner or with masturbating to imagination. I quit porn forever because:
    • It damages me.
    • It makes me a worse person for other people.
    • I don't want to support an industry that abuses people.
    To me, these are powerful reasons, all the more so because of the morality in the second two reasons. I might find new reasons over time.

    If I were to accept your claim, I would have to believe that I must inevitably fall back to porn unless I find a partner quickly (because I don't use my imagination to masturbate). That is an unhelpful belief, and so I reject it.

    This is why I decline your claim, and I sincerely hope that you will realise that you can too.
     
  12. if you try to starve yourself you will always eat if there is food, you will never die. same goes for pmo its a matter of time!
    (what you said about wet dreams: is like saying you dont need to sleep because if wait long enough you will fall asleep).
     
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  13. you must have misunderstood what i said because I never said anything about reasons for quiting porn.
     
  14. Infinite spirit

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    There is no such thing..if there is extra semen it will come out in wet dreams. No excuses
     
  15. have you ever had a wet dream ?
     
  16. Infinite spirit

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    4-5 times every month.
     
  17. and you think thats better than having sex or masturbating once every 50 days
     
  18. Infinite spirit

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    Sex is the best. Wet dreams are the second option.. they don't happen without a reason..only if there is exesccive energy in the body. Masturbation is not an option anymore for me..it's just bad.
     
  19. Wario32

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    I'm looking into this as well. It's natural to have releases.

    Guys we're not turning into monks here.

    If you go past 90+ days with out PMO .

    You should be ready to bring back healthy releases. Porn is the enemy.

    Unless you have an addiction to masterbation. You should be more cautious.

    I had a 95 day streak - if I had a release I would of felt a whole lot better then relapsing to porn and watching for hours. I know that for sure
     
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  20. Gvn2Fly

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    I agree with the original poster and wario.
     

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