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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fallensoldier1, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Fallensoldier1

    Fallensoldier1 Fapstronaut

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    I want to hear from you. How are you feeling? Do you still have withdrawals and negative side effects. What about orgasm with a partner and not from yourself?

    I hate to say but I have felt some negative feels from orgasming with my wife. I went 100 days hardmode and then released from her, 3 times in 24 hours. Maybe that was too much for my mind and body right away? I don’t know, but shortly after I felt depressed, anxious, jittery, worthless and a couple days late even cold/sinus like symptoms, but it is also winter time. I don’t know what can all point to PMO problems and what can just be life.

    It’s a rollercoaster. Some days, some minutes I feel great, positive, energy and such. And some days absolutely terrible and anxious, depressed, very low energy and motivation, lots of fatigue.

    I’m so down about all of this. I thought for sure 100 days hard mode would have me feeling much better. But I did PMO for over 15 years sometimes more than once a day, so 105 days sober is probably nothing. I’m sure I will be one of those people that take a couple years to get totally healed. Or did I cause permanent damage?

    I take a high quality multi vitamin, fish oil, i haven’t been to the gym in a few weeks but was trying to go a few times a week. I have tried meditating with the headspace app, but I haven’t been doing it everyday like I should either. I cut out video games a lot too is another big thing different out of my life.

    I am starting taking some vitamin D capsules as well today. I hope that it can help some.

    Curious about anyone else past 90 days. Share your experiences with me please.
     
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  2. Fenix Rising

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    Abstention alone helps only to some degree. You need to find root cause of your anxiety and depression. PMO does make anxiety/depression symptoms worse in the long run, but it's usually only coping mechanism that "helps" us escape unpleasant tensions in us. As for very low energy levels, your brain needs time to rebalance itself. 100 days may not be enough. I had severe fatigue problems up to 4 months (120 days) into the hard mode (wild mood and energy swings). Regular vigorous exercise (exercise that makes you sweat) lifts energy level, but you really need to implement it on daily basis to get best results and you might need to wait up to two weeks to experience general energy rise.
     
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  3. I'm over 90 days. Have also had severe and immediate physical tension/anxiety after relapses on previous streaks past 90 days. I think 3 times in 24 hours was probably too much in your case. Us porn addicts or former addicts don't always realize it but orgasming is a very intense release of energy and exhaustion and things like depression are only logical consequences if it's overdone. Withdrawal has the same effects since sooner or later your body can grow dependent and pmo becomes a sort of stimulant/energy source.
    The French refer to orgasm as the little death. It's both energizing and exhausting and has different effects on different people. But it's definitely not uncommon to feel exhausted, depressed or anxious after sex with orgasm.

    It's probably okay to make love to the misses as long as you go easy on yourself.
     
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  4. Not sure what to say. Just overall more calm. Before I used to always be alert and try to find a way and place to do the " dirty job". Now , I couldn't care less.

    Oh and more confident btw !!!

    Sometimes the urges come, natural stuff I guess ,quite an effin annoying " natural" thing but meh, i ignore and move on!
     
  5. jorg78

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    If you have a partner, you should welcome sex and orgasm. The problem is porn, not having sex. Your brain is used to having orgasm who releases a lot of feel good hormones. I may not be right here but my belief is that you are making progress as long as you skip porn.

    It took me a very long time, a lot longer than the 90 days I thought would be enough to get better.
     
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  6. Westsidejimmy

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    Hey Brother,

    I'm out 250 days. About 100 hard mode. Today for the first time I can remember my headaches are almost completely gone, I felt very at peace today as well. Sex with my wife is still a bit of an issue since my PIED went away I'm super sensitive now so I can only go for like 10 minutes.

    Healing from this shit takes time. You have turn into a Jedi Knight for a while.
    For supplements I'm on Butterbur extra, Ashwagan(smooths me out big time), D3, and algae oil(it's better than fish oil). The only solution is to keep going. More than one person has recently noticed a change in me. You'll get there too. Also one side effect I hadn't thought of when I started is that whether intentional or not once you cross the bridge your partner or any other woman won't be able to use sex as a weapon. It's man's greatest weakness.

    Good travels my friend.
     
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  7. Fallensoldier1

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    See the problem is I had little to no anxiety before trying to quit. I will admit I had depression before. However I have went to counseling in the past and been on several different antidepressants and it never got better. I was hoping quitting pmo was my issue and would get better. Maybe I’m just too messed up.

    But like I said, I have had moments and days that were good and then literally out of no where it all hits me. Sometimes it’s almost like I’m feeling and doing good, and I stop think about how I’m feeling and I’m like, wow I’m feeling good, I’m not having “x” problem or feeling “y”. Whatever those two may be, then instantly I might start feeling that way. My mind is tricking me a lot. Especially with the anxiety.
     
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    I feel like P and M in general is the main problem. As long as my wife is the one who gets me off, that’s the route I was wanting to take here on out. Basically if she doesn’t get me off, I’m not getting off. That’s the way it should be In a marriage.

    Sometimes I think I need to go back to the Doctor since sometimes I’m feeling so crummy and down and tired. And then it’s like, how do I explain my symptoms? Sometimes I can’t even explain how I’m feeling, and sometimes I don’t feel bad, untill I think about how long it’s been since I noticed I felt bad last.
     
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  10. Nabaski

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    I still feel really down with no real motivation to work on my studies, I don't really know when is it going to stop being like this
     
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  11. A nu start

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    Why don't you go and get some blood tests done and just check things out? Maybe you are a bit on the low side for testosterone, maybe there is something else wrong that can be easily fixed? ie - lacking a vital mineral that you can fix by taking tablets for a couple weeks.. It's worth a shot. I'm gonna go and get my blood done soon just to make sure everything is sweet.
     
  12. Fallensoldier1

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    yeah I was thinking about that soon. Although I did do that a while back while feeling this way, I got a CBC and everything was alright they said. Specifically vitamins and mineral levels I would like checked. I take magnesium before bed to help me sleep. But I know I have to be lacking in vitamin d. I spend a lot of times outdoors and in the sun I’m spring and summer. Can’t in the winter or it’s always cloudy. So I started taking a vitamin d supplement today for the first time. I’ll only take it in the winter. Was going to see if that helped me any. I have to be deficient, since I don’t eat a diet high in vitamin d either.
     
  13. A nu start

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    I think that's a good idea. Also get them to tell you what your exact testosterone levels are.. Doctors will consider your testosterone 'normal' if it's between 300-1000 ng/dL, but 300 is about the level a 70 year old man. If you're below 500 then you'd want to try and increase it by making some lifestyle changes.
     
  14. 4 days away from getting to 6 months. Symptoms were hitting me hard since weeks 2. I think I burned out the receptors and glands from pmoing. From my experience orgasm is the worst of them all. But porn was always the reason I used to mo.
     
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  15. jorg78

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    The problem is that you don't get enough steady dopamine in your brain. You removed one thing that got you dopamine, but have you replaced that with something healthy? Like exercise for example?
     
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  16. Fenix Rising

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    Maybe you should read this article: http://www.entelechyjournal.com/pulling_away_after_sex1.htm

    Dopamine deficiency is associated with depression->addiction and social anxiety.
    Dopamine excess is associated with euphoria but also general anxiety

    "Balanced level of dopamine is necessary for good mental health. When dopamine drops, you feel like something is dreadfully wrong. Too much dopamine also leads to reckless behavior and restless anxiety, which can be quite severe."

    Addicted brain doesn't have normal levels of dopamine. When you compulsively MB, your dopamine levels are too high, causing general anxiety, when you enter withdrawal and post acute withdrawal period, your dopamine levels are way too low (not enough receptors to bind them), so your social anxiety and depression gets worse.

    Only time can normalize our dopamine levels, but don't expect an easy ride. Dopamine levels fluctuate during reboot, going from way to low (depression, social anxiety) to way to high (euphoria, general anxiety) and back under mean level (cause of wild mood swings during recovery). But fluctuation gets smaller and smaller over time until dopamine levels normalize.
     
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  17. BigOne79

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    Okay, mine is about 375 which is pretty low so how can I change that. What are some lifestyle changes besides I am eating healthier. Maybe need to lift heavier weights I guess..?? What else do you think helps...
     
  18. Fenix Rising

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    • Eat more fat
    • Consume more zinc and vitamin D
    • Stick with multijoint movements in the gym
    • Shorten your rest periods
    • Get more sleep
    https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/7-smart-ways-to-boost-your-testosterone.html

    - Eat a healthy diet
    - Daily exercise
    - sleep hours

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...xpert-answers/testosterone-level/faq-20089016

    - Daily exercise
    - eat whole foods with a healthy balance of fat, protein and carbs
    - minimize stress
    - sunbath or vitamin D
    - Vitamin D and zinc have the strongest evidence as testosterone boosters.
    - sleep 7-10H

    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/8-ways-to-boost-testosterone#section8
     
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  19. Fallensoldier1

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    That was a very well described post that really explains a lot of the roller coaster ride I’m on, that can literally change in a instant.
     
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  20. Fallensoldier1

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    I haven’t had my testosterone tested before. But In general my sex drive has been pretty high. And so far I haven’t had ED problems. I have had some low libido thru reboot, but I felt like it was more of flatline.

    Today was day 2 of vitamin 2 supplements of 2500IU but my multi also has 800iU in it.

    I hate winter. I hate not being able to be outside and getting some sun.

    I also have been to the gym a lot in my life but sometimes get out of it. I haven’t been since Christmas. I really need to start back in there.
     
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