Pornography vs casual\meaningless sex

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by confused thinker, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. confused thinker

    confused thinker Fapstronaut

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    Hi,
    I think that at least one of the arguments against using porn apply to casual\meaningless sex as well.

    * Anything worth getting in life asks something from you, an investment. Porn gives you instant pleasure without asking for anything in return.

    Casual sex (compared to sex in a long-time relationship) is the same. In a relationship, you have to actually strive to make things work, to become familiar with another person in real life. Casual sex is unconnected with one's life in the long run, one's goals and one's own personality.

    Having said that, casual sex compared to watching porn is meaningful - compared to porn you have to work for it! You have to work on your body, meet actual people in the real world, and physically engage with them. It is just that compared to a long-time relationship it involves less aspects of your personality, and thus is less meaningful.


    Do you think I am wrong?
     
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  2. Jackb97

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    Casual sex is still sort of an act of love even if you never see each other again.
     
  3. Uncomfortably Numb

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    Real (casual sex) engages all the senses so has to be better IMO
     
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  4. drac16

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    I mostly agree with you. Just something to add, if I may. If I say that 1+1= an elephant and you say that 1+1=5, which is the better answer? your answer is better because it's closer to the truth; it's a number, although it is a wrong number. Therefore, to say that casual sex is better may be technically true because it's closer to being a commitment, but it is still wrong, in my view.
     
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  5. phwrancesco

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    I agree with what you say.

    Porn only requires a wifi internet connection.

    Casual sex requires resourcefulness, being active, lucid mind and the courage to approach a girl. All features that can be useful for a your long term projects if well developed.
     
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  6. confused thinker

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    1) What do you mean by resourcefulness?
    2) Given that a lot of casual sex involves alcohol, why is there a need for a lucid mind?

    I like this idea! Thanks.
     
  7. phwrancesco

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    1) i mean being proactive

    2) the alcohol thing is not a rule. There's plenty of guys who have casual sex without alcohol: just think to the guys who go to the gym to pick up!

    you're welcome!
     
  8. You are all welcome to your opinions even if they are wrong :)

    Porn and casual sex are the same in general terms if you are using it to feel good and avoid bad feelings.

    If you are feeling lonely and you turn to porn, it's the same if you go have casual sex or sex with a prostitute.

    If you are avoiding something and using any sex to feel good it's never a good thing. Do it enough times and we train ourselves expect it and get it.

    I'm not saying casual sex is wrong nor is porn in itself, it's the abusive and highly addictive nature that causes the problems.

    It's like the guns dont kill people, people do thing
     
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  9. confused thinker

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    I understand that using casual sex \ porn to avoid a situation is not good, but why is using it to merely feel good - unproductive?
     
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  10. It's not so much unproductive but it's more that it can be the start of a journey to places we don't want to end up. If you are here and you are battling porn addiction then you're not in a good spot to be having casual sex.

    If you're battling porn addiction the body and the brain expect a dopamine release every so often. If you take away the porn and go start having casual sex then it'll just start depending on that for its dopamine.

    When you cannot find casual sex you'll turn to other ways like paying for it or taking chances with people you otherwise wouldn't have sex with because you need it.

    If you've had an issue with sex or porn then casual sex might be fine for you, that's an individual choice. But if you're hear for the same reason most of us are here for then you'll already in an area where casual sex is risky.
     
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  11. diesel2256

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    I don't know anyone who has a lot of casual sex (random partners) that is genuinely happy or mentally healthy. IMO, casual sex is essentially mutual masturbation.
     
  12. Fornication and masturbation are both sexual sin.

    The worse (consentual) sexual sin is adultry because you are violating a promise of exclusivity that you made before God and your families and friends in marriage.

    Second worse would be fornication (casual sex) between two non married parties.

    Last would be PMO.
     
  13. Khufu

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    causual sex can be seen as trading one addiction for another followed by a new set of problems down the road,your brain an body is aware when your sexing someone compared to being alone masturbating, just being hugged by someone sets off good chemicals ,
     
  14. EXPONENTIALLY

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    I think casual sex, that is premarital one, is worse than PMO because in PMO you don't defile anybody but your own body. Filthy sex will leave you both full of emotional and physiological aftermaths. Plus, as a 'virgin', you don't necessarely want other people's 'left overs' because these are really left over with a post sex trauma, so 'casual' sex is also the act of ruining hopes to those who foresaw it and decided to abstain for the better.
     
  15. Yeah causing someone to have sexual regret, low self-esteem and psychological distress is very loving.