an alternative model

end_it_for_good · Dec 29, 2018

i see a lot of people have an attitude of just stop. that doesn't work.

i think you need a method - something to follow.

i'm in favor of the ocsb model. it's legit: https://www.theharveyinstitute.com/publications/books
this dude's book is legit. it is a functional model

Amphibian · Dec 29, 2018

I mean, ultimately whatever works for you man, then do it.

I'm over 3 years sober from alcohol, but I don't do the steps or AA. Some people in AA have been supportive of how I do it, while others have ripped me apart saying I'm doing it "wrong" and am on the constant verge of relapse.

I know what's good for me and what works, and the last 3 years of joy and progress have been testimony of that.

So yeah, if you found something that is different but is getting you where you want to be, then do it dude.

end_it_for_good · Dec 29, 2018

for sure. i did 12 step for years. i found it to not be that helpful.

i would assume if you have 3 years from alcohol you still had some sort of method.
that's the big critique. i don't hear a lot about method. just a goal. i think we all need some sort of path whether it's 12 step, ocsb, cbt, replacement, something, just a goal alone seems to be inadequate. i see perpetual relapse in this forum at a high rate, which is why i suggest some sort of method. i'd love to see more people discuss simple clear methods. there are many paths. i think that will help a lot of chronic relapsers here. i see far too much unneeded hopelessness and perpetual failure

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