Someone educate me on porn

A good Question, I have seen Videos myself that i thought should be taken out because of real rape , or sex whit a drunken victim...and i have asked myself, If there is a Institution who takes care about such things?

 

I think some authorities try to fight with it, but it is a hard matter. There is a huge stream of new porn videos in the Internet, so nobody has resources to monitor each site - especially that some people try to hide their activity.

I heard (but never watched) about some movies from Netflix or something, that discussed porn industry. Maybe somebody else can say more about it.

 

They make money off of ads and views... Just like youtube content creators. They also have loser "fans" that donate money for clips and pictures, etc. Also it isn't that regulated when it comes to laws, in some countries they are able to get younger girls into it without breaking the law... I had a BDSM addiction and honestly you can't tell sometimes because a lot of it is "rape roleplay"... sometimes the acting is convincing. It's hard to regulate things like that. Honestly it just needs to be banned IMO but they have so much money it will never happen.

 

Also the porn industry has turned into a big tech company... MindGeek owns basically everything. It's like YouTube or Facebook now days.

 

They report to the electronic crime authorities that a private video has been uploaded without their permission. The video gets deleted and the case is investigated. But once a video is uploaded, practically will stay on the Web forever.

I think that when a video is uploaded, it's not immediately available in public, but must be approved by the site staff. I don't believe that they want to risk their business andd freedom. Furthermore, I've seen behind the scenes videos of "amateur" where it is obvious that it's professional, videos that the actors state that they agree about what is going to happen etc. Of course they cut these parts from the original video, because they're turn offs for the viewers.

I believe they are set up. Most times terrible acting. Real illegal videos are shared by individuals for a lot of money. Something like drug dealers. I think they are caught by bait officers or reported by other users. Porn sites are companies that struggle for profit. Their goal is money. They don't care about lives or anything. They are interested about the viewers to be satisfied only because this means profit for them. Money...

 

You certainly have a lot of questions which is good. Firstly, porn is not regulated other than by law, there is no government body overseeing it like OFCOM or people who rate films as 15, 18 etc unless it is released for retail in a shop, then it has to have a BBFC rating (British Board of Film Classification) however, because everything is uploaded on the net there is no vetting process really other than what the website owners will allow.

In the UK it is a criminal offence to posess or produce any content that depicts rape or coerscion (unless it can be argued it is necessary for example, as part of a plot in a feature film and is not gratuitous) it is also illegal to posess material deemed to be 'extreme' this has changed in the last 5 or so years i believe and does include some BDSM content by default, although this is more on the very extreme end and much of it is down to interpretation by a third party ie: a judge or jury in a court. I can't say how vigorously the law is upheld or pursued in that respect other than cases i've heard about where people have been arrested for downloading illegal content involving minors who also happen to have exreme adult content, so they basically get both books thrown at them so to speak.

The thing with the internet is, it also depends on where in the world the content was made and uploaded since the laws in other countries are different, for example in Iceland and Japan, beastiality is legal and in the USA it is not a criminal offence to show content with an 18 year old dressed as a child...in the UK that is illegal despite the person being over 18. This is why it is difficult to 'police' the internet on a national level as sites are globally accessible.

The porn industry is worth billions of pounds because producers own several sites, some maybe even in the hundreds and they will throw a load of free sites out there which link to paid content. The idea is that the user gets hooked to the free content and in order to see more they have to pay. People end up paying in the long run and they know it.

I think a lot of content is what you would call amateur, consider the cam girl for example who makes money every minute a client is connected or the woman who works for a big porn company but has a seemingly private owned site, this creates a certain level of 'exclusivity' between the user and the performer and the user will often pay hundreds of pounds to request content directly from the performer. They need access to the bigger companies because their content will be promoted on their 'other sites' if they just did it on their own they wouldn't get the traffic to their site they needed to make the money.

Sites also make money from advertising, consider the fact that in 2015 P'hub was visited 21.2 billion times, advertisers would bite your arm off for that kind of exposure and you can bet they charge very large sums of money for the opportunity to advertise on their site, the main problem for them though is that big name brands won't be associated with it for obvious reasons.

You asked:

Well if the individual in the content wants to press charges then they will go to the police and the person who filmed it and uploaded will be arrested and placed on the sex offenders register. It requires someone to press charges because it might not be obvious to the viewer that the victim hasn't provided consent, ie: the video is edited in such a way.

If you really want to find out more about the industry from an academic perspective then i can recommend a great book by Gail Dines called 'Pornland, how porn has hijacked our sexuality' which is available on Amazon.

There is also the website fightthenewdrug.org which has loads of articles about porn and how it affects society.

 

Pornography is very ancient. You will find pornography in many respectable museums across the world. Archeological artefacts often portrait scenes made to stimulate, if not celebrate, masturbatory sexual acts. Some beautiful pornography was found in the remains of Pompeii - and they are absolutely astonishing to look at (not offensive at all). Pornography can be considered a form of art, and the main leitmotiv of much of the themes of the ancient world.

Industrialised pornography for immediate consumption is a relatively new phenomena, and doesn't compare to other periods of history. During medieval times pornography was seen as something that should remain hidden from the eye (the word "obscene" comes from this), or it was completely dissimulated, turned into metaphor, in order to not confront with religious ethos. A loving couple shouldn't be stimulated to reproduce what was perceived as "unnatural acts" - but that doesn't mean these acts were inexistent, or were never depicted or written about (take Decameron as an example).

Different cultures also had different approaches to nudity and decency, for example. Islam was much less tolerant to the human body (it is a sin to get naked or even portrait naked beings), while Christianity tolerated nudity as an ideal of purity - a state of humanity before the "original sin" - but desire was quickly transformed into lust and concupiscence. Even so, you can't say religion ever had a positive approach to any sexual acts, even less the representation of such acts.

The issue with pornography became much worse around the time of the Enlightenment - the "Age of Reason", some say. At the same time intellectuals became "free from religion", social norms were adapted to pursue a more puritanical view on how public sexuality should be expressed. Laws against "perversions" came to be practiced in a tremendous scale, and science was invited to stigmatise people under labels such as "Paraphilia". It was at this same time that pornography became a platform for political manifestos, and it remains a circus since then. (The kind of pornography we have today is nothing but a subtle manipulation of our own sexual practices in concordance with political will - and it doesn't surprise me to see people trying to mimic what they experience in their fantasies on real life).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/09/sexual-violence-india-rape-pornography

I have done some research on the relationship between pornography, religion and society - but I can't find any agreement between the authors I read. Some think pornography helps to keep society "healthy", some believe is the source of many anti-social behaviours or even violence. The argument is usually related to the role of subconscious impulses in society (FREUD, extremely overrated thinker). Curiously, it is right to say that the more oppressive becomes a society, more extreme pornography tends to take shape. In other words: easy access and consumption of pornography doesn't necessarily reflect sexual tolerance, or healthy relations, but rather the opposite. Why? Maybe it is time to discredit a little the psychoanalytic view that says that pornography is vital to promote a release sexual tension (in my view, it can CREATE more sexual tension than a relief of suppressed fantasies).

I once had a teacher at Uni who wrote about the participation of Jews in the modern pornographic industry - and he celebrates this effort as part of a necessary revisionism of longstanding moral values (Christian, obviously). Indeed, there is a participation of Jews in the modern industry - but the consumption is clearly NOT Jewish-only. In absolute terms, Islamic countries consume more porn than Christian countries. Therefore, we shall avoid blaming any group for the drastic normalisation of porn that we have today (if we really wanted to regulate pornography that would be easy...). Porn certainly plays a larger role in society than we usually assume.

Nevertheless, I am entirely convinced that pornography works better in order to reinforce religious morals and conservative ethos; as a counter-weight to a more naturalistic/atheistic/liberal approach to sex (absent of dogma and prejudice found on religious discourse). Institutions (especially religious) exemplify through pornography as a way to show the degradation of society, and that's how they reclaim their lost sheep - I wonder how symbiotic is the relationship between porn and church - while the first deals with "liberation" of animalistic/"demonic" instincts, the other plays with their guilt and ultimately end up bringing the congregation back to church/state values.

There is an interesting documentary that analyses the sexual economy of Germany prior to the fall of Berlin's wall. You can see that pornography was one of the tools of the "capitalist side" - much better suited to a consumerist world, in which religion still plays a huge role, than a communist/atheistic one, where sexuality was not free, but less hidden. The result? Yes, communists have a better sex, but much less perversions - exactly because they rely less on porn to seek pleasure!

WARNING: TRIGGERING THEME/IMAGES

 

I was suspended here for mentioning something along these lines lol Anyone debating that the industry didn't start off as a bunch of "artists" who smelled like they crawled out of the sewers of the Weimar Republic in Berlin who are fulfilling their shiksa fantasies obviously haven't looked into the industry. As you mentioned, the consumption is largely done by the goyim... the mosquitoes can only feed on the swamps of our sins, it's up to us if we choose to view such filth as an anathema or something "progressive" and "liberating". Nietzsche was critical of Christianity when he spoke of the "Transvaluation of values" where he claimed that Christianity demonized sex which was natural and obviously essential for human life... but this is something new. We are no longer talking about simple acts and reproduction, were talking about young men wanking themselves into a mental disorder and young women entering a world of debauchery at the ages of 12 and 13. Anyone claiming this is promoting a "healthy society" needs a serious psych evaluation or they're simply an activist with ulterior motives.

 

The problem with Nietzsche is that scholars always seem to focus at this supposed dilemma between Nietzsche and Christianity. In a bizarre way, Nietzsche sometimes play the role of a saint in his life - as he end up seeing himself as some sort of martyr, practicing the ascetic way of life that he vehemently condemned. He also perished in loneliness. Even so, I was always surprised to see that he adopted, uncritically, the term "Judeo-Christianity" - to discuss the dynamics of this long-term relationship, that very few dare to present without showing passion for one side or the other. The West, according to him, became screwed up when they decided to glue together the New and the Old Testament, in one single book (or books, since the word Bible means "books")!

Honestly: I believe there is an interplay between actors going on - in all spheres of the political debate. They like to use the "ethnicity" card nowadays, like they did in the 30s... This is historical, but it has increased since the Vatican II. So, I don't blame sides here - I blame circumstances. The powers of this world work together to bring doom, if they want, and the only way to stop this is making the discomptemt public. I think pornography should be banned from the internet - computers are not the same thing as TV & VHS. This technology is brainwashing people in a large scale; this is worrying.

 

At the same time movements like NoFap could be the answer to this huge social health issue. It is a matter of consumption, of sign economy - a diet that is not making any good (especially to man). A shame this is not being more carefully studied (and promoted) by the media, academia, etc. What else is to unearth here? Why porn was so easily domesticated?

In a way, NoFap also appeals to religious people and religious discourses - it is a revival of old traditions, which necessarily brings back the discussion over the influence of the religious imperatives (guilt, shame, sin) and how they use the porno-panic to gather more influence among the crowds. I certainly have my "spiritual" moments in this website, and it can be scaring. (Because I'm skeptical by nature, about everything, but can't explain the "dark" effects of a diet of PMO in my life without recurring to religion or metaphysics).