Sexual fantasy

It's not porn , it's not masterbation , its not orgasm . So you are pmo free if you sexually fanastize all day long.

But to be more productive you could replaced this thoughts with more positive thoughts or use the energy to go to gym .

No pmo is a good place to start

 

It releases testosterone too . It's natural enough . By stopping porn for 90 days your brain reboots and you will have sexual thoughts but not as perverted as before . 90 day pmo free is a good place to start

 

By cutting out addictions , we open ourselves to what really drives us and sets us on fire , Our passions in life .

 

Cut the fantasies off quick. They can overcome you.

 

It depends. If you O to a fantasy, it may not necessarily seem as bad as P, but actually in a way it is. Because you are then heading towards something called the chaser effect, which would eventually lead you back to looking at P.

So even fantasies, in a way, are best avoided during no PMO. Because it will hinder your success, and sometimes all it takes is one naughty thought and boom, it will lead you straight back to the P.

 

I have come to view fantasizing as part of the same problem that I'm trying to avoid with PMO. Ask yourself whether you want to fantasize for the same reasons you usually want to PMO, and if you do, I'd consider it harmful and cut it out completely.

For me, fantasizing - especially if I MO'd to it, but even if I didn't - definitely felt like a version of the dopamine "high" I was seeking with P. In fact, I was usually imagining something P-inspired. I think it can easily be a part of the addiction and I'm not sure it does much good to go P free and fantasize all day instead.

One note - I'm not saying a momentary fantasy that pops into your head is a big deal. If that's all you meant, it's fine, as long as you notice it and just move on.

 

Say you fantasise about a sex act but you don't M . Surely the emotional neuro link between your brain and body is nowhere as strong as when you MO .

How do you stop fantasies? Should you not let thoughts and feeling come up to the surface .

For me by stopping pmo , some rejection issues around girls came up and I guess that's why I was using porn, and once I saw that stopping became so much easier .

I agree if you wake up with an iron rod in your pants like I did this morning and you are fantasising about a threesome . A cold shower is probably your best friend .

Another thing is I find my triggers are when I feel low and I use it as an excuse to sleep , but since I start meditating my sleep has become thankfully unbroken .

 

I think everyone can choose their own path to getting PMO free. I certainly agree that just fantasizing, without M or O, is probably a much lesser "hit" of dopamine, etc., then M/MO/PMO.

While I can imagine it could be a way for some to "ease off," for me, the real root of the problem was MO more than P, and when I avoided P for 6 months but didn't cut out the rest, it eventually landed me right back where I started. If fantasizing is a mind-bending escape just like P is, it will at minimum be a similarly huge temptation to MO and at worst have the same negative effect on the way you think and feel that P can.

We may be missing each other's point here though. When I talk about fantasizing, I mean spending serious time imagining... whatever... to arouse yourself as much as possible. I don't mean momentary thoughts that are acknowledged and moved on from. The issue is more indulging an urge than having a thought.

So I think we actually largely agree here .

 

FANTASIZING SLOWS DOWN YOUR THINKING AND IS ADDICTING TOO EVENTUALLY YOU WILL GIVE IN BECOMES YOU KEEP DOING IT AND START TOUCHING YOUR SELF AND YOU WILL HAVE A RE LAPS JUST STAY AWAY ALL TOGETHER AND FOCUS ON YOUR LIFE INSTEAD AND JUST LEARN TO FORGET IS THE BEST WAY

 

For me, I have been able to quit porn for 10 days but I haven’t quit the M and the O yet, which is my next step. I know porn is bad. And I know the mastubating and orgasm is hindering my progress but as a person who has viewed porn in one form of another for over 20 years, it is a positive start. Anyone else try the “ weaning” approach rather than stopping everything at once?

 

Just quit the P and M myself since I'm married. But that can be viewed as both a help and a hindrance depending on factors.