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Why i need a girl in my struggle ?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Johnfrench, May 25, 2018.

  1. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Hello Everyone,

    I'm John, I'm french, i'm 26 and i'm sick.

    I already came here, on Nofap, several times. You can consult my first post and tries to stop with diary and all the usual stuffs here and here.

    So.

    Why i need a girl in my struggle against PMO ?

    First of all, I already had a GF during 5 years and we broke up 8 months ago. I'm not looking for date or anything else.

    I need a partner.

    I already had an help guy (support partner) with this phone number etc.

    To sum up, i read many of struggle's diaries from men or women. I'm feeling closer to the "bad feelings" or "pure addiction" that i read in women stories. After years i know i'm not fighting a sexual issue. It's just an addiction like cocaine, tobacco, alcohol and many people dont see that, even the psychiatrist or health personal i met for this problem. And that a big part of THE problem too....

    But at the opposite of the "usual drugs" i mentionned, there is worst in this addiction its more vicious because it doesn't hurt. Very slowly, i loose friend, i became colder every years passing. But it was so slow that no one remarked it, not my family, not my closest friend, not my ex-girlfriend... etc...

    It's been more than 10 years i have this addiction. I really became conscious of this illness about 1 or 2 years ago. And that is the MAIN PROBLEM because the reality is 10 years of accoutumance. Not 1 or 2...

    So the answer at my question :

    I need to share all this shit with a girl, with the opposite sex, my deepest shames about that. I need the alterity of women experience to fight this, i need a support partner who is a girl.

    To me , Pornography is also a way to separate men and women. It is a sick vision of relationships, especially for me, because i'm very far from vanilla porn. I'm stuck in worst kind of virtual sex...

    I Will post more and go further in my explanation.

    I hope someone will hear my appeal.

    I'm french, sorry for my english and don't hesitate to correct my sentences if you see errors.

    See you later everybody !
     
  2. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Just relapsed...

    Just relapsed heavily...

    With money consumption and all things that come with.

    i begin again and restart my counter i will do it again and again until i break at least my first and best record that is 17 days without PMO.

    Juts that, remark the giantism of the issue : 17 days without PMO is my record i can't stand 3 weeks without touching my cock. Its horful.

    i so badly would to be transfered to my 30 days or 90 days right now.

    With my brain clear....

    Anyone see my post. This post will be uses as my diary too. I prefer that.

    Everything is in. my daily life and my presentation. I want it that way like Backstreest Boys said....

    Ciao a tutti !
     
  3. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    @GhostWriter

    Hey! Thank you for your motivational answer, it gives me faith in me, really! I like this type of sentences they give me courage !

    Yes, i said "need" because i feel it like a "need" and i think, after readings many stories of both sex, that it is good to talk about all this stuff with a girl. I think i will develop this subject in a next post when i will have more time (work a lot).

    For a boy, i think it would be really useful to know the anxiety of a girl about herself, her struggle, all the problem with porn. And i talk more about the psychologial side of the issue, of course.

    And its the same for girl, i think, when they think about boy's porn issues.

    There is a continent to discover i think...

    See you later all !

    And thanks again @GhostWriter
     
  4. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Hey everyone,

    I see my post was moved in this section.

    I'm sorry for all who think it was a bad idea to post in the women section.

    But i keep this idea in mind. There is a particulary thing about men/women relationships to enlight about PMO issues like we all have here.

    I posted in women section cause i would like to have some girls who break the wall between their issues and ours.

    I think it would be useful for ours both PMO issues.

    Hope to be read by both sex !

    I keep on this diary / journal/ digression /presentation thread !

    Bye all
     
  5. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Hahaha thks @GhostWriter.

    Good laughs, thanks to you!

    I will post more after this. I just hope boys and girls read my post.

    Its night for me in france, so good night!
     
  6. Mister Fire

    Mister Fire Fapstronaut

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    Yo John ! J'sais pas si on est autorisés à utiliser une autre langue que l'anglais dans c'forum mais comme t'es un frenchy j'préfère te faciliter la tâche. Déja, t'inquiètes pas: t'as réussi à faire 17 jours, moi j'arrive même pas à passer l'premier sans m'toucher la teub (et pourtant j'avais réussi à faire 8 mois) donc dis-toi que y'a pire que toi et que ton cas n'est pas si dramatique.Ensuite, le simple fait d'être ici et de reconnaître ton addiction signifie que tu te prends en main et c'est bon signe ! T'as l'air en bien meilleur état que moi quand j'ai commencé à arrêter la masturbation/le porno ! Allez, t'es jeune et tu va dans la bonne direction ! Je crois en toi ! Courage mon pote je sais qu'tu peux l'faire ! Je suis avec toi !
     
  7. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Relapsed again yesterday night but i'm confident i really feel PMO with no more pleasure at all for me. I really live it like an addiction, it could seems nothing but for me its important . In my head there is no more doubt about ii , like when i finally succeed to definitely stop the cigs. i knowed it was bad for me at 100% bad....

    So i really understand something about me and my frustration and i'm really in war against that, there is no more doubt about the fact " Should i really fight this ? Is this really an addiction" I step up i think.

    Well, i promise i will write more developped thing about what i think about man/woman PMO issues and the keys what we could find in this subject.

    See you later all.

    And never give up !


    @Mister Fire Salut Monsieur Feu,

    Oui aucun soucis pour parler une autre langue que l'anglais, c'est sur que ça sera plus facile pour nous mais on sera compris par beaucoup moins de monde et je recherche la possibilité aussi de partager cette affaire avec le maximum de monde et accessoirement améliorer mon anglais en le pratiquant ici, mais nous deux si tu veux on peut continuer à se parler en français. En tout cas merci pour tes mots d'encouragement ça fais plaisir. Baleze8 mois !! je me demande d'ailleurs comment t'as rechuté après 8 mois j'arrive pas à comprendre, si tu peux m'ken dire plus?! A plus tard mon gars !
     
  8. Mister Fire

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    @Johnfrench J'ai utilisé l'porno comme évasion au lieu d'faire face à mes problèmes, c'est comme avec toutes les autres addicitions frangin.
     
  9. persevereuntildeath

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    John, this is a hard thing to say but it is best to steer clear of a relationship with the opposite sex until you've overcome your addiction. If you bring these problems into marriage, or even more troubling-- an unbound relationship, you may very well end up hurting someone permanently. Get clean first and then you can court a woman. Honestly, this issue comes down to a mentality of abuse, one that says "women are objects to gratify me, to cater to my needs." Until you respect women enough to not objectify them or to hyper-sexualize them, I'd say you're not ready for a relationship no matter how much yearning is in your mind and body. Above all, you must find a superior more noble desire in this world, something to aspire to, something that can cleanse your soul of this vice. You need to love something more than porn, something pure, something decent and wholesome; this could be the prospect of your future wife.
     
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  10. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    Thank you @Mister Fire and @persevereuntildeath for your reply.

    @persevereuntildeath I thought during a logn time about what you wrote but i had a GF during 5 years and i never discuss with her about my issue /addiction and its one of my deepest regrets i think i would be still in couple with her if had do that before we broke up...

    Thats why, among other reasons, i created this thread about the fact to have a girl in this struggle.

    I think the men and the women are more efficient when they reach to make disappear false pride and postures and be able to talk about so intimate issues like PMO addiction.

    Cause it is one os the most unmentionable issue of human kind !!

    " I'm addicted to the fact to stroke my cock during hours in front of cumshot compilation... (randomly)"

    it's so pathetic man. I so badly want to never do that again.

    I say that, but yesterday night i relapsed again.. i'm not in a very good mood for fight BUT i feel ready so i keep the faith and the confidence!

    Bet on me girls and guys I will make it.... one day!

    See you later all i will write more in the next days!!
     
  11. akrivane

    akrivane Fapstronaut

    Hello John,

    You have relapsed, but its good that you keep on trying to fight it.
    I get what you mean that you want to know the perspective of women on the subject. And i applaude that, because most men react in ways that they think will make us women feel better, when it was just a matter of asking us a simple question and we can figure out the solution together.
    That aside, I would add that women themselves are very different. So my take on some matters will be different from another woman's.
    Nevertheless, i am willing to discuss with you and we learn from each other.
     
  12. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Hi @Johnfrench and thanks for your post. There was a woman from this site who messaged me for help with the addiction because she liked my posts. However I got a crush on her. I eventually told her I had a crush on her and she said she liked me too but we lived far away. Our communication got really choppy and I decided I wouldn't answer her e-mails any more. Neither of us intended to develop a crush on the other but we both did. So your ideas about things working out with a female recovery buddy on here might work but they might not. I didn't think I would get a crush on this person; I thought we'd be recovery buddies for ever. But I know from hearing some of her addictive stuff that she went through that hearing womens' addictions definitely affects me differently than it would affect me to hear a guys' addiction. (I'm straight) So IDK if that helps. It was only one person and who knows, a female recovery friend might work if it were a different person! But didn't work in my case.
     
  13. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    @akrivane Thanks for your answer and its already interesting. I think you 're right about what men thinks about PMO 's girls issues. I'm happy to read from a girl that may be a part of the solution to have discussion between women and men who are addict to this crap... I think there are walls between us and porn addiction is a big part of the problem.
    I dream about easy conversation about bad feelings about PMO issues etc... I think it would be liberator.

    @PMO addict You're right i know the risk but like i said before, for me, and after months of studies on myself and my addiction i know i have to try with this solution. i know in my issue that women are a part of the problem that's why i try to discuss about that with them.

    So all of you, who has replied to me : @akrivane , @PMO addict, @Mister Fire, @GhostWriter , can you describe your addiction? your issue and how long you try to fight this and how long are you on Nofap? Did you talk about it with someone in your entourage ? etc...

    Thanks for your time all !! New crew hehe !

    Byt the way i relapsed again. In fact i fap everyday since one week i know well this type of period its hard to escape from it i am like that everytime i reach a 5/10 days of hard mode then i reach to start again really. i know i will go out from here. i have to be patient, it's a key of succcess too i think.

    Ciao ciao !
     
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  14. Mister Fire

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    @Johnfrench I started NoFap on August 2017 and kept relapsing since April 2018 until the 3 days streak that I’m on now.The reason why I relapsed after 8 months is not only because I wanted to use porn as an escape but because I still didn’t get the idea that PMO is a mindset and NoFap is a mindset ! That’s the key ! You have to change WHO you are in a deep level ‘cause if you’re still the same guy that does PMO, you’ll relapse sooner or later.You have to be a warrior, you have to get a strong reason WHY you’re doing NoFap and you have to remind that WHY to yourself every fucking day ! It doesn’t matter how long your streak is, if you’re still a pervert/sex addict you’ll relapse, guaranteed.Just change, raise up you standards and your values, change the way you look at women, sexuality etc.
     
  15. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Hi @Johnfrench thanks. Yep, its best to trust yourself. I was just reflecting on my own experience with it but that doesn't mean they will all go like that. And I can see the value in this sort of thing. It has been helpful for me in many instances to talk to women on a friend-ship basis and in fact one of my best friends is a woman and we are "platonic friends" and have been talking for over a year now. And relating to a woman in that way definitely minimizes my tendency to seek women in a PMO-kind of way from the contrast.

    About my PMO story - It is scattered around my various posts on here, my intro post (in my sig) and my journal. However, if I think of it, I will come back to this thread and make a little synopsis. if I don't then keep an eye out in the "success story" section because I'll eventually make a post over there. And you can always PM me if you want to talk about anything!
     
  16. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    @Mister Fire You're so damn right about mindset ! The big difficulty is to have an access to this deep personality...

    I dont feeling like a pervert but when you stroke everyday to shitty videos always more humiliating we can say that we are pervert or at least have a big issue with that...

    "Just change, raise up you standards and your values, change the way you look at women, sexuality etc."

    So true. So close. So far. Damn.

    @PMO addict I woul have , like you a a real friend in my entourage, to speak about this shit. you are so lucky to have a friend who is a gril to speak with.

    I told about that only to a psy, and its really uninteresting. She takes that lightly, for me. She's searching other things than that and we dont talk a lot about this issue. For her it's just a problem of frequency... Anyway. I will talk about that later too.

    It's night in France, so good night to all !!

    P.S : @akrivane Can you describe you addiction how you fight it? Since when you're are sick? etc...
     
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  17. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    @Johnfrench thanks. Well, she did mention her addiction, and it did kinda trigger me to hear about it. I tried to ignore it but it kinda made me get aroused. I told her it didn't because I wanted to be supportive and I figured it would go away. She didn't mention it many times but the times she did, I was kinda triggered. I didn't say it due to people-pleasing too.
     
  18. Johnfrench

    Johnfrench Fapstronaut

    @PMO addict I understand very well what you said. But Don't you think its exactly a problem. To be aroused about a big issue from someone who are struggilg with. So nevermind the way we have to do this, we have to be confronted to this... i think. cause if we dont, we just are, at the top, perverts in withdrawal.

    So even if on the moment you was triggered, the fact you dont give in your addiction makes you stronger and permit yourself to live this next time withtout sexual thoughts the next time. I hope!

    Congrats for 46 days !

    I came back on a good mood about Hard mode its been 2 days already and i'm feeling great, i hope to keep on!

    Bye bye all see you later !
     
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  19. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    I was kind of thinking that. The part of me that was triggered was my addictive side, and there was a "real me" who wanted to be able to be supportive.
     
  20. TheNewPat

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    We used fapping because we felt life wasn't fulfilling enough/it made us happy/ it helpe when lonely/ whatever reason...

    Many of us prob used other things too, drugs, alcohol, sex, tv, movies, video games, sports, food.........

    Theres one problem with it all. It stops filling the void we have.

    A girl will also not work.

    If you dont love yourself, enjoy your own company and are capable of sitting with yourself, you will never fill the void.
     
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