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Does the dopamine reward system react to imagination the same way it does to porn?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by tratledge, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. Dec 18, 2017 #1
    tratledge

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    Full disclosure - I'm on day 5 of PMO. Going well, I'm not really having too much difficulty with it (probably assisted by the fact I have pretty low libido right now). I'm going to around the 60 day mark before I evaluate how I feel in total.

    There's probably no info out there about this, but I'm in the camp that doesn't think that masturbation is necessarily bad for you so long as it's not excessive. What's excessive? Well, that's different for every person, of course, but let's just say 1-2x/week for the sake of argument. Do you think that using your imagination for sexual imagery is basically the exact equivalent of looking at porn?

    I don't really have a sex life outside of my own hand, because I'm demisexual - I really only experience an attraction to someone if I'm very emotionally close to them. Otherwise, nothin'. (Who knows though, I'm leaving it open to the fact that maybe my years of looking at porn and jerking off once a day have caused that; I guess Nofap is a good litmus test of sorts for that.)
     
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  2. Dec 18, 2017 #2
    anewversion

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    I'm very very knew to this. The best thing you can do is go out there and do your research.

    In as far as I know, masturbation in it's self is not bad.

    Full detox probably 90 days with no PMO. Then once you think you are under control you can MB I guess to your own frequency. But probably want to limit it as much as possible. Less is more here.

    You probably want to aim for 10-14 days.

    No more than once a week. Retaining your semen has benefits for you. Gives you drive, clarity etc etc...

    So think of it as holding on to it is better than your weekly whackamole.

    As for the act it's self. NO porn. Because this inhibits our ability to have sex with real women. Images in your head. Well after a no PMO cycle I guess it's fine but try and keep it healthy.
     
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  3. Dec 19, 2017 #3
    Sh123

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    LMAO !!!! Weekly whackamole.
     
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  4. Dec 19, 2017 #4
    Mr. Twister

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    Hi. I don't really know you, but believe me - all that crap about how you need SOMETHING (emotional connection, deep understanding, certain types of women etc. etc.) to feel an attraction to a woman is just a litmus test that your system is unbalanced.

    There are guys on this forum who thought they are homo-sexual until they stopped watching porn. I was thinking I'm into fem-dom and need a strong mistress to be a submissive until I get rid of that shit - now, they wanted to be submissive to me which is much more natural and how it should really be.

    Yeah, tell about your problem to a guy who's on a 30 day of NoFap challenge (which I was) - on that level of accumulated desire and testosterone you will want to bang any movable object even closely looks like a woman (an important notice - the REAL woman).

    To your question - until you have a constant sex life with the same partner or various one-night stands on a weekly or monthly basis, forget about pleasuring yourself at all.

    Masturbation is OK then you got a girl you can bang later that day or night or a week. Masturbation is OK if you do it to release the steam after a long stressful day. Masturbation is OK if you spend 2-3 minutes to achieve climax.

    Either way - it is not.

    Masturbation is a supplement. And in your position, it is the main dish, which is very wrong.

    Use that power from holding your semen to find yourself a real girl. Then you can think about whack-a-mole game ;)
     
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  5. Dec 19, 2017 #5
    tratledge

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    Hey Twister -

    I know you likely didn't mean any disrespect by your reply, so I'm not angry over it, but I would caution you against assuming everyone here is straight. I'm not - and your comment about some guys not being homosexual until they stopped masturbating, or that women being submissive to you is how it "should be" are both pretty misguided. Porn didn't make me gay and it wasn't a choice; I was born that way and have never felt attraction to a woman once in my life, only men. I am plenty comfortable with that too. Additionally, there is no reason that women can't be dominate in the bedroom; plenty are, and plenty men like that, and that's okay. It doesn't make them any less of a man.
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2017 #6
    Onehope

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    I think your brain is accessing the porn in your head for the lack of porn in your life. If it is then the best course of action is to not indulge in it. Try to shake those thoughts away so you get used to not thinking about porn.
     
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  7. Dec 19, 2017 #7
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    Short answer: yes.
     
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