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This is the reality

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by WotansVolk, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. WotansVolk

    WotansVolk Fapstronaut

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    It is not often that I write on this forum. For the most I only come here to read other peoples posts but sometimes I feel that I have some thoughts I need to share with you. And today is one of these days.

    The simple fact is that life is hard. This is no easy ride where all our dreams will come true just because we want them to come true. Life is brutal, cold and unfair and any person that gives up will get completely crushed by it. Life is merciless and dont give a damn about you or your hopes and dreams. This is simply the reality we live in.

    Just like the animals in the wild struggle for food and shelter each day so must we too fight for our own survival in this brutal world we live in. There is no room for weakness, only the strong survives.

    In my entire life I have fought against depression and suicide thoughts. I have, like many others of you, been through alot of hardships and countless times I have considered taking my own life just to kill the pain once and for all. My life is not much better now than it was before. My depression is still there and I often get the urge to just end it all.

    However there have lately been a shift in my mindset about everything. Untill now I have always had the false idea that things will get better if I just put in a little more effort. How foolish of me! Now I have completely given up all of my personal desires and dreams and accepted the reality for what it is.

    I fight for something that is greater than myself and my own petty desires.

    And for this reason I will not take my own life. I will fight on and when my days have come to an end I will finally rest. No more pain, no more dark thoughts and no more desires in life that can never be fulfilled despite how much effort I put in. But til that day comes, when I finally leave this world, I will struggle!

    Struggle is life itself. It cant be denied. Never surrender! Fight on no matter what happens, because this is true courage, to keep fighting even if you know that it will not change anything.

    (Excuse my poor English)
     
  2. BetterMan123

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    Life is hard. At times. Life can also be easy. At times. Life is Life. Yes sometimes it sucks shit, and others, gives you motivation to keep going, move forward, Excell. There are things you can change, and there are things you can't. But the one thing life is, is opportunity. YOU have the power to change your situation. Only you. Give in, feel sorry for yourself, give up. OR, when life gets you down, grit your teeth, rise up, and say "fuck you". It's your choice man, but I believe you have just a wee bit of optamisim in you, at the very least. Why do I think that? Because youre here. You've discovered a problem in your life that you'd like to change. Will it solve everything? Maybe, maybe not. But it's a hell of a fucking start. Good luck, brother.
     
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  3. Slothman

    Slothman Fapstronaut

    Life is what each of us believe it is.
    Yes Life is all that you said and so much more.
    Life is beautiful, life is full of hope, life is full of Life, life is amazing, life is unexpected, life is what we make of it.

    You chose to have those thoughts, nobody make you think that way. It is your choice.
    It was mine not too long ago as well, i used to see the world with a dark nihilistic point of view. Everything sucked, it was unfair, i had no choice, i was a victim of myself.
    One day i got tired of it and made a choice... That day i changed my life, that day died the nihilistic pessimistic self that once ruled my thoughts, that day is no longer today.

    You are the owner of your destiny, if you choose to be a victim, a victim you will remain. But if you choose to be someone better then act on it and BELIEVE IT!
     
  4. Buzz Lightyear

    Buzz Lightyear Fapstronaut

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    This is why man turned to religion. To cope with life. And then having suckled long and profitably on this milk, he dared to question it. He has grown up, but not for long as soon he finds his visage bent by old age and looming death.
     
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  5. Like others, I too have experienced existential nihilism. Once you get sucked into that, it's hard to come out of it unless you do something drastic to shake things up. For me, leaving that pit of despair involved fully blaming myself for everything that has ever happened to me. And I mean everything. I started blaming myself for my past childhood physical and sexual abuse and anything else that made me feel like a victim. After a while, I slowly started seeing and believing myself to be not some helpless victim but as someone with such a strong will and force of determination that the world needed to take some of that strength out lest it be unfair to everyone else. For inspiration on this idea, watch the movies Braveheart, Gladiator, and The Last Samurai. Nietzsche believed in the Superman, a person who is courageous enough to create his own values (since the world has none) and so he finally annihilates nihilism.
     
  6. You can use your inner strength to help those younger than yourself to avoid porn.
     
  7. Born_For_War

    Born_For_War Fapstronaut

    Younger, and also at times older. We all help each other on these forums regardless of age, colour, or social status. At least, that's the theory. The reality is much harsher.
     
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  8. Buzz Lightyear

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    Nietzsche was right to reject bourgeois middle class 'values'. His is essentially a return to the Greek Aristotelean ideal of self-determination. But strangely it doesn't quite return. As a German I think he is still enamored with the idea of historical progress, and as he can not get beyond naturalism, we end up with a very unnatural philosophy.
     
  9. Physicist

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    Suffering is good. Why fight it?

    Train yourself to suffer. Train yourself to do things that you hate. Train yourself to get up in the morning early, no matter how cold it is, curse the warmth of the bed and the softness of the pillow. Curse them. Then get on with life.

    Train yourself to deny the sugar coated donut.

    Train yourself to run the extra mile when your body wants to scream "no more".

    Train your mind to help you. Make your mind to say "this motherfucker just won't give up. I tried so hard hurt him but he never gives up. I might as well help him". Train it to become your bitch.

    If there isn't something worth suffering for, whats the point of coming out of the other side. How do you know if you have won a battle when you don't even know you have fought in one?

    Whats stupid is that life then becomes easy.
     
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  10. The "I am going to accomplish things because I hate myself" attitude is quite a juvenile approach. Suffering in and of itself to accomplish anything is a weak mindset, and implies no individual driving force.

    "Suffering" may or may not be part of the path to accomplishment, but it is not the source.
     
  11. Physicist

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    Where did I say say "I hate myself"? I'm not sure why you misrepresent me. The mindset of "i m going to accomplish things because i hate myself" doesn't even make sense. If it ever existed, I'd agree it might be ridiculous.

    I said train yourself to do things you hate. You might hate getting up in the early morning or getting the extra mile in. Whatever it is.

    To go through that suffering in fact implies full driving force when you want to quit but you don't.

    Why don't you tell us a better mindset?
     
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