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Saying "No" to women, because of PIED.

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by mrbattosai, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. mrbattosai

    mrbattosai Fapstronaut

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    A little overview on what I am going through: https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/90-day-reboot-hopefully-i-can-do-it-this-time.76791/

    I am 29 years old and I self-diagnose myself with PIED. I would say ever since I lost my virginity at 18, I had some type of form of performance anxiety, because I was able to stay hard as a rock while watching porn and then when the real things comes along, staying erect was mildly difficult. However, now at age 29. I can barely achieve an erection and its even more difficult to sustain the boner. I've been pretty fortunate that some women find me attractive, so getting laid has never been the issue, but the anxiety of knowing my cock will not erect or sustain erection is killing me. The funny part is, I feel I give some women the worse dick of their life, because it happens to be in gummy worm mode (soft) and I just end up wiggling it inside them, but they call the next day for more.

    In the beginning, I felt it was mostly performance anxiety, however now I am pretty sure its a combination of porn and anxiety. I have been watching porn for about 18 years, so the damage is pretty severe I think, coupled with the fact my taste in porn has gotten pretty disgusting. I am hoping a 90 day no porn or masturbation will be a good start.

    Also, I feel like I gained some type of death grip. I haven't been able to cum from sex in like 4 years. I kind of chalk that up to death grip and my porn habits being so hardcore now, that im disinterested in "normal" sex.

    I have taken "generic" viagro and it does get me hard, so I kind of feel like it is all porn induced ed, because even with Viagro I have problems sustaining my erection. If anyone else is going through similar issues, I'd be happy to share my experience and hopefully encourage each other from continuing this path, because I am tired of making up BS excuses to women. It kills me inside, they literally throw themselves at me and beg. I feel so low now.
     
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  2. Anonymous86

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    Are you in a flatline? If so, how do you get aroused?
     
  3. DBug

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    I totally feel you bro.

    I too had problems getting and keeping it up and I never came with the one women I had sex with. I made up BS excuses for the other ones I could have had sex with if I hadn't been too afraid that I couldn't perform or lateron (when I found ybop) knowing that it was literally impossible for me to perform normally.

    I took the abstinence course but it's not ideal since we should rewire to the real deal (flirting, touching, kissing, smelling, etc.) so we're in some kind of kafka trap.

    Also no matter how you play it's gonna get uncomfortable - be it when she expresses interest and you decline, when you're making out and she wants you to take it to the next level and you don't or if you end up in bed and you experience performance problems in whatever shape or form. Do you tell her about your condition afterwards?

    These are decisions you have to make yourself.

    I personally decided that I would allow myself to try to sleep with somebody once I've reached day 60 and only if an opportunity presents itself (you know sometimes you meet someone and you just click and it's a breeze... until you have to find a BS excuse haha). At day 90 I will start actively pursuing things. Although I do not think that 60 days will be enough to fully cure me I should see at least some improvement - or a dead penis if I'm still in the flatline; in that case I will push back the plan for 30 days - and further the rewiring process. That should be worth the inconvenience if I experience performance problems which I most certainly will.

    This is my compromise/plan. Read about what others did and what worked for them and make your own plan.

    Best of luck mate!
     
  4. Tommy_0113

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    Even with dating... I date but I can never feel like continuing it further knowing I can't have sex because of PIED. I tell girls I want to take it slow, when I know I'd love to get them in bed and screw them like they want me to ;) I'm going well on my 90 day no PMO challenge. So I guess all I can do is rethink it all after.
    But I want to rewire with a girl to help me! :(
     
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  5. DBug

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    Yeah it really sucks no matter how you go about the whole rebooting- & dating thing.

    Lol true that! @Screwherlikeshewantsmeto

    What I try to tell myself is that no matter what we do - abort or go through with it and fail - it can only get better (as long as we abstain from P (and M) obviously)!
     
  6. six

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    For me, 50mg (or even 25mg) viagro works fine. Hard as rock. Without it, I can get hard initially, but inevitably lose it during intercourse. This has been the case since I started fapping heavily at age 29 (I'm 49 now). So if it's not working for you, I'm not sure what to say. When you lose it during sex, what's your mental state? Do you feel aroused mentally, or kind unaroused when you lose it? Just wondering how much of your problem is psychological . Maybe a higher dosage, if your DR oks it? I don't think its ideal to be dependent on V, but it can be a great crutch (if it works) in overcoming performance anxiety. Without it, there was a time when I was so sure I would lose my erection during sex, that it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm hoping that after 90 days of nofap, I can give it a try without the V. Or maybe dial it down to ever smaller quantities.
     
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  7. mrbattosai

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    No flatline. I get aroused, depending on the situation, however I get anxiety, which immediately kills my erection. When a girl sees that, they auto think I dont find them attractive and if they're not a significant other, I wont tell them about my issue, Ill just use the excuse i drank too much or whatever.

     
  8. mrbattosai

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    I think the anxiety kills me at first, but I know I have some brain damage from porn. Once and awhile I'll have a good day with a girl and my dick will get hard. They see that and its auto sex time, but say like 2 mins later poof, hard on goes away and when it goes limp. It goes limp forever, ugh. Id say once a build an emotional attachment, it helps. I have good day here and there where I preform like a champ. But those days are rare and becoming more of rarity. It doesn't help I still watch porn in relationship or even when I have girls to sleep with.

     
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  9. ProavtiveJoy

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    You do not sound that anxious to me. What is it that creates the anxiety? Do you have it in all situations or just during sex?

    A bit curious because i "struggle" with anxiety but just not during sex but in all kinds of situations.
     
  10. mrbattosai

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    If I have to be honest with myself I think its watching years of porn as a child and my cock not matching up to the pornstars. I'm not small when erect, the issue is not matching up, but then once that fear is gone, because I never once had a female turn me away, even when my cock is soft they'll give it there all to get it hard, but once I think about omg she is going all out on my dick, but why am I not getting hard, It'll never get hard again. Then it turns into, wow I'm 29, im in great shape, I'm attractive, I have a woman basically raping me and I can't get hard. The nervousness breaks in and when I see her again I'm just nervous as before, but this time its, I wont get hard.

    I don't have anxiety in all situations, I might get nervous meeting new people, but thats only if they're important people, say in a business meeting. Id say on a social anxiety side, im at 2-3 out of 10, 10 being crippling fear.

     
  11. mrbattosai

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    I have 100mg of fake viagro. I take half, I've taken 25 mg before and I'll get hard. Hard out of nowhere within 30-45mins, which shocks the shit out me sometimes. I taken it during the day, just to see with no stimulation and poof erect dick, which sadly makes me super happy, because I'm so relieved that my member can stay erect. Now, when it comes to taking a viagro and sustaining, I have trouble. I have in the past stayed hard throughout, which happens here and there, but its rare, even in a serious relationship. Id say 10% of the time, the other 90% it gets erect, then soft and then erect then soft. With a girl I have less emotion for its like 1% chance. the porn I watch has become more disgusting too, so I know that is killing me

     
  12. ProavtiveJoy

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    That is interesting. Yeah sounds really like a porn induced thing to me. Even tough i am no expert.
     
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