But I didn't reach the edge What I mean is that I didn't come close to orgasm. Does it count as a relapse? I believe it does, I really do. I know I should reset the counter and I'm going to do so even thought I'm hesitating. But what puzzles me the most is what happens to all the testosterone I've been storing. I mean I know that I screwed up with dopamine, but how about testosterone? Is testosterone still "untouched"? It makes sense to me since I didn't cum.
I understand how disparaging it is to have come so far to completely lose the value of the days previously accumulated. Your heart knows what a relapse means to you. If it were me, there's two ways to go about it - a timer for going without PMO and one for PM - with the full intention of meeting both goals. Or, see the bridge, get over it, and reset the timer. Either one works. As for testosterone, I don't know anything about those things.
@Awakening123 Given that there're people with much longer streaks then mine and yet they relapse, I can't guarantee that.
Yes, edging is about taking yourself to the edge of an orgasm, but denying yourself the final climax. So, it sounds as if this was more like a standard masturbation episode, but without cumming. How long did you do this for and were you using your imagination or did you use an artificial form of stimulations such as a picture or a video? Irrespective of those finer details, I would recommend a reset and it seems you have done this already. It is folly to think the only dopamine-releasing, pleasurable sensation is the orgasm itself.
Edging is worse than masturbation, true. But he wasn't near the edge, so I would say he should stop playing with himself.
I would not personally finish myself off with the notion that it is worse to just simply edge. It's like an alcoholic realizing his addiction half way though the bottle and deciding to finish it off thinking its worse to waste the booze. You did well to stop when you did, especially in spite of the added difficulty.
Ok so I did reset as you noticed. -Yeah I was using pictures. But what I wanna know is what happened to testosterone? Is that shit still alright?
Here we go again. We already had the same conversation. Now I know a bit better, after being educated by a member. The question is if you happen to touch or stroke your tool either because it itches or needs some adjustment, tight underwear, is that a relapse? certainly not. If you are sound asleep and wake up edging like crazy, is that a relapse, I do not think so. If you purposely stroke to almost a point of no return, that is a relapse. I understand some men edge constantly without reaching O.That is of course really bad because they can go for hours while watching P. In this case edging would be far more damaging than plain M. At least that is how I understand the whole issue.
Not if it is accidental edging. Edging constantly to continue high dopamine levels, certainly is far worse than masturbation
I agree. Stopping was the smart thing. BUT remember if you do that repeatedly it will hurt you in the long run. In this case reaching O would be far less damaging than continuing edging all day long with the excuse that you did not ejaculate. Edging to keep high levels of dopamine are more damaging. Don't do it.
I lean towards this notion as well. If you've edged only once (or just M) in a 30 day time span, I'm sure anyone would be alright. Medical emergency O is probably not in order.
You need to come up with a plan then, like using a rubber band around your wrist that you can snap everytime your hand goes near your penus.
I don't think I need that, but thanks. Anyway, What I was going to say, I don't feel like I relapsed at all but it was reasonable to reset. I actually feel really good today which means my testosterone level is 11 days high I think. Maybe I misunderstood the whole concept of testosterone and nofap, but I think I haven't wasted it. What do you guys think, I really need your opinions on that one? Thanks in advance