1. Welcome to NoFap! We have disabled new forum accounts from being registered for the time being. In the meantime, you can join our weekly accountability groups.
    Dismiss Notice

It takes 35.6 weeks of abstinence to cure your brain

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 24, 2019.

  1. stoneyman22

    stoneyman22 Fapstronaut

    We shall rise against the machine brothers throw down the porn goddess and flee!:emoji_see_no_evil:
     
  2. llortaton

    llortaton Fapstronaut

    723
    17,748
    123
    My Journal
    There are many more factors to this...
    I'm 14--- been addicted to PMO for 9 months...
    Do it normally, twice a week.
    Doesn't mean it will take 250+ days for me to heal.

    There are a lot of factors, bro.
    Like, how many times you've done it, how often, how long, etc.
     
  3. Anonymous86

    Anonymous86 Fapstronaut

    2,833
    851
    113
    Where in Fenix's paragraphs is this and why is this? I didn't see this.
     
  4. I will be curious to hear your results. Be sure to let us know how long it takes for full recovery in your particular case!
     
  5. stoneyman22

    stoneyman22 Fapstronaut

    read the whole thing man it shows it in some areas grey matter decreases when you stop being an addict.
     
  6. Thanks for sharing this info :D
     
    Fenix Rising likes this.
  7. llortaton

    llortaton Fapstronaut

    723
    17,748
    123
    My Journal
    Sure, Tao, I'll follow you, so I don't forget you. :p
     
    Tao Jones likes this.
  8. llortaton

    llortaton Fapstronaut

    723
    17,748
    123
    My Journal
    Also, how do I know when I'm "fully recovered?"
     
    need4realchg likes this.
  9. Thanks for the post bro, is very interesting indeed, I have read ybop about 6 times and there's some great information there about are brain patterns. My philosophy on my pmo addiction is basically this. it took me 24 years to create this monster, it might take me 24 years to destroy it. From some personal experience i have about two years without drinking alcohol, and the thought always crosses mind to drink, and i was a drinker for about 22 years. The only difference now is that I got more self control and I am more aware of the consequences if I go back to drinking. Hopefully I can say the same thing about pmo in two years.
     
  10. Theres no time limit when it comes to this I believe. Some people wont even know what fully healed means since they've had symptoms for years and probably normalised over time how they feel and have underlying problems or developed problems going into withdrawal sort of like trauma in a way.

    Edging (not a pun) into 20 months very soon and have only started seeing glimpses of libido since 19 months. All mental symptoms are gradually getting better and a lot of symptoms have gone. What Tao Jones said about the 3-5 year timeline is Interesting and I dont think hes too far wrong either.

    I think 3 years for the absolute worst cases might be true.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 25, 2019
  11. I guarantee if you sort yourself out now at your age you'll live a prosperous life with the right mindset. Dont fap yourself into an oblivion like many of us mid twentys who grew up with tube sites.

    Your recovery shouldn't be too bad I imagine.
     
  12. You tell me when you get there. You'll know. :)
     
  13. Hello zen raises a good question, what is the relationship between addiction and grey matter?

    If you have already answered that question here, feel free to quote yourself,

    Thanx
     
    stoneyman22 likes this.
  14. stoneyman22

    stoneyman22 Fapstronaut

    If you smoke enough weed all the grey matter will turn green 0::emoji_bamboo::emoji_dragon::emoji_dragon_face::emoji_cactus::emoji_cactus::emoji_evergreen_tree::emoji_evergreen_tree::emoji_evergreen_tree::emoji_evergreen_tree::emoji_evergreen_tree::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_deciduous_tree::emoji_deciduous_tree::emoji_deciduous_tree::emoji_deciduous_tree::emoji_deciduous_tree::emoji_cloud::emoji_waning_crescent_moon::emoji_white_sun_cloud::emoji_waxing_gibbous_moon::emoji_waxing_crescent_moon::emoji_waning_gibbous_moon::emoji_rose::emoji_snail::emoji_snake::emoji_lizard::emoji_bug::emoji_cactus::emoji_cactus::emoji_cactus::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_palm_tree::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_four_leaf_clover::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_frog::emoji_cow:
     
    ZenAF likes this.
  15. Fenix Rising

    Fenix Rising Fapstronaut

    1,955
    3,836
    143
    That's the problem with long lasting addictions. With many repetitions behavior shifts from rational part of the brain (requires thinking) to our "lizard" part of the brain, where it gets automated (on autopilot). It someone used to "heal" his/her problem (be it stress, depression, anxiety etc.) with alco/drugs/PMO for a long time, this connection will unfortunately stay engraved into his brain for the rest of his/her life. When some super stressful event comes along (like loss of a job, bad health diagnosis, separation, death of a loved one, etc.) you'll get incredible strong craving to switch on your old automated behavior again to elevate the tension with your drug of choice, no matter how long your abstention lasted. You really need "godly" willpower to resist temptation and stay rational in such times. It's just how deep learned behaviors work. Our brains are extremely efficient machines and shift all our long time repetitive actions on autopilot (deep learned behaviours). In fact up to 60 % of our actions is done on autopilot without thinking.

    That's why it's so important not just to abstain from your drug of choice but to develop alternative coping mechanism(s) (for example to cope with stress) by repeating new behavior consistently so it becomes deep learned behavior over time. So when the stress hits you hard (for example your loved one dies), your brain switches to "newly" learned alternative deep learned behavior (for example running) instead of the the old one (alco or PMO). In such life shattering cases your brain will always switch to autopilot (deep learned behavior), so you better have one in store when shit hits the fan or you'll relapse no matter how long your abstention has lasted. It's just the way our brain function. We can't change it but we can make it work in our advantage if we understand processes behind it.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2019
  16. Bihari

    Bihari Fapstronaut

    Thanks for the post.
     
    Fenix Rising and Anonymous86 like this.
  17. llortaton

    llortaton Fapstronaut

    723
    17,748
    123
    My Journal
    Yeah... Thanks man...
    :)
    I want to get out of this shit hole quickly, lmao.
     
  18. Monk1415

    Monk1415 Fapstronaut

    19
    24
    3
    whoa so we should be doing the 314 day challenge , not 90 days lol

    Well in my personal experience my highest streak was 135 days and that was when I experienced some changes, ive reached 90 a few times and that never really gave me much changes so I definitely think 250+ days may be required in order to really change.

    However I do wonder if maybe having real sex can quicken the reboot process? because with alcohol and drugs I assume there isn't anything else you could substitute that with, but with pmo you could always have sex which is similar but also different, so I wonder whether sex will mean you can recover from the effects quicker or it will slow it down?

    But thanks for posting, definitely makes sense to me personally that this reboot process requires a lot more days, nothing is easy but it will be worth it in the end.
     
    stoneyman22 and Fenix Rising like this.
  19. I'm sitting at 212 or so days, and I can say that after that long period of rest I'm finally just recently starting to see some things ever so slowly change. I started when I was just a wee child and was doing it multiple times a day up until I was an adult, so for everyone I think there'll be a list of factors to consider after abstaining as there definitely isn't a certain time lapse until you're better or at least feel am improvement. I have been feeling worse since starting because of these major withdrawals and mood swings, but I see a light somewhere down this dark tunnel.

    Obviously NoFap isn't a cure for everything, but what I'm talking about is removing my symptoms created from addiction. My anxiety will be here to stay as I've always had that, and some of my other issues too but I want the main rubbish outta here already and it seems to be taking it's sweet time.

    It is nice not having those compulsive thoughts or feelings so much now to get you to go back to porn, I could just do without the lack of motivation and brain fog.
     
  20. [​IMG]
     
    need4realchg likes this.

Share This Page