Is Masturbation are Good for our Health?

Easy way. And with that I guess it is better for both of us to stop it. You are a very religious person, and I respect your way of battling against the same enemy I battle against. We simply do it in other ways.
You have your God, your faith, your believes. I don’t. I simply think that my behavior got out of control, compulsory, unhealthy.
But me being gay, can’t believe in your believes, because probably me simply being gay is somthing against nature for you, and I am sure you’d have “studies” and “scientific proof” that homosexuality isn’t natural but something to heal. So... we’ll never see it in the same way. Keep battle against your demons, but STOP IT to adding demons in who already has many.

 

for nofappers, masturbation is not good.

 

For nofappers, OUR masturbation behavior is not good! I know alcoholics who today are able to drink a glass of wine in company, without getting back to the bad behavior and getting addicted.
BUT probably in this case, I am trying to make thinks easy for me and hoping that, one day, I’ll be able to jerk off once in a while, without porn (my real problem/symptom, because PMO is not the problem, it’s just the symptom of the real, deeper problem) and still have a healthy, natural, instinctive sexlife.

 

No, that's how it works, whether you actually believe or you just read the Bible as a story, it's consistent with the logic of the "story itself".

This is against nature because of scientific reasons, not because of religious reasons. Due to religious reasons it's a sin like so many other sins. Sadly most people, religious or not, don't understand that "Sin is not bad because it's forbidden, it is forbidden because it's bad."

 

See, everything you are against is because your religion says so. Science, the whole psychological community, has long proven, that homosexuality is part of the human nature, has always been and will always be. FACTS have nothing to do with religion, and anyone who believes, has not the right to condemn others for not believing. Reading a story, doesn’t make that story science. I am sure you won’t change your point of view because you will find the proofs you want to find. But like the majority, for human kind’s sake, does believe in science.
But thank you for this interesting discussion, which starts to get a little ridiculous.

 

Religious reasons are not science, it’s a believe without any scientific background. I always had difficulty to understand how someone chooses the “right” religion, with all this different religions out there, so different between them, how they choose to believe in the Old Testament (which condemns shaving, eating shrimp ect.) or New Testament (which has no word of the condemnation of homosexuality in it).
BUT religion is a freedom, to believe in scientific fact too. Telling others how to live their lives is not.

 

I'm not going into this again, I have in the past and it's just tiresome. No, science hasn't "proven" anything on homosexuality, it was rendered "part of human nature" by a vote in the American Psychological Association back in the 70s or 80s, with only around 56% votes. It was a political vote, strongly influenced by the LGBT community and mostly based on the logic that if it gets labeled "normal" homosexuals will not face that much discrimination, which is obviously anything but scientifical. There is a lot of research indicating that it's actually a learned behavior, mostly the findings on sexual molestation and later homosexual orientation but also studies on animals and manipulation of serotonin to change sexual orientation, among others.

Yes, that's why i'm saying my stance on homosexuality has nothing to do with religion. It's kind of weird how so many people think that science and religion are mutually exclusive though when so much of scientific advances were encouraged by the Church in the past and for example the Big Bang Theory was advanced by a catholic priest.

No, what i wrote was about the "free will" part and how that's logically consistent even if you see the Bible as a story. There are no contradictions.

They are both valid but NT has priority over OT in the parts where it directly mentions a new approach. OT condemns shaving for priests and the eating shrimp and stuff was abolished in the NT when Jesus made all food clean. Most of the misunderstandings of how the Bible works come from a lack of knowledge on it.

But then again, this is not a place for this discussion, the topic is just about masturbation.

 

Never was molested, neither were ANY of my friends. If it was learned, it could be corrected, which simply is not possible! LGBT never had any influence.
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.psy...mosexuality-stopped-being-mental-disorder?amp

So, you think I am wrong, try to convince others of that (while hurting hundreds of people, especially the young once who discover their homosexuality and try to accept it, which is the only way). U must have so much to battle on the inside your self....

 

It can be modified and it already has been, see patient B-19. Like I said, this is not the time or the place for such a discussion, this topic is about masturbation and we are both off topic

 

Maybe it can in whom homosexual behavior was “created” during porn addiction, but not in whom homosexuality is part of his/her nature from birth.
But you are right. This site should not be the place to condemn homosexuality nor masturbation nor sex, but to get back to a normal, healthy sexuality, whatever that is for everyone. I guess everyone should find his way to live it.