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Did anyone develop high blood sugar/ diabetes because of excessive masturbation ? Please help

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by stack85, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. md70

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    Porn was the devil that made me relapse after 21 months, nothing in the world that i hate more than porn, for more than a decade porn addiction fucked my life like nothing ever would, it forced me to masturbate even when i had zero urge, when i had no semen in my balls!
     
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  2. stack85

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    I totally agree .... PORN is dangerous. It's like a bad drug.
     
  3. stack85

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    IT IS CRAP, DANGEROUS BS...
     
  4. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    @stack85, how often were you doing PMO at your worst? Now?
    What type of diet are you following? Please try to be detailed about this one. What was it prior to NoFap and now?
    How much exercise, prior to NoFap and now?
    What is your height and weight, or if you're not comfortable posting that, what is your BMI? Prior to NoFap and now?
    What was your A1C (or sugars) prior to NoFap? Now?
    What supplements are you taking?
    What medications are you taking?

    It would be nice if @fullyrecovered could answer the same questions.

    I think this is an interesting idea that PMO can cause diabetes, I guess it could make sense if orgasm increases cortisol, but I can't find any sources that show this, do you have any scientific sources? I saw your reference to the herbal love website, but this source is not scientific enough and it is trying to sell you their supplements I believe. I do believe you're onto something, just trying to help out.
     
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  6. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker I have enough proof. My diabetes IS due to PMO. I recently completed a 26 days fast last month and my blood sugar was almost normal after eating HEAVY carbs meal with NO medication at all. I have tested it many times before and Got the same result. My weakness is that I don't seem to be able to spend 3 months hard mode on nofap in order to fully heal.

    PMO didn't only give me diabetes, it gave me high blood pressure too at such a young age. I need NO scientific study to prove it, I had my own experiences repeated many times by myself. I know it's the cause. I am on this streak now to see if I can last 6 months. I want the old me back. I talked with others via private messages who fully healed themselves of the same issues after going on nofap for a while. PMO is dangerous. It can really kill you.
     
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  7. stack85

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    if you carefully read this whole thread, you will understand that it can cause it.
     
  8. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    I believe you, but I'm just trying to understand, so I guess you won't answer any of my questions? If you want to convince others, won't it help to answer some simple/basic questions?
     
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  9. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker I did not take an A1C test right before nofap, but my highest A1c was 12, and now I am at 6.0, I am not taking ANY supplement or any medication and I ALREADY ANSWERED that. I got those results through nofap alone.
    @fullyrecovered and other users I talked to via private messaged got cured after reading my thread. I don't give too much attention to studies led by humans, I pay more attention to WHAT MY BODY TELLS ME, THE RESULTS THAT I GET AND THE REPETITIVE TESTS/EXPERIMENTS PROVING that what I AM SAYING IS CORRECT. MY WEAKNESS is being able to last on nofap for while to maintain healthy blood sugar levels and heal my BODY. NEVER went beyond 30 days hard mode on nofap. PMO is bad anyway, it's not morally correct. So I am paying the consequences. My body just does not take it.
     
  10. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker Your statement is ridiculously strange. Why should I force myself to convince others ? I feel morally obligated to share my discoveries to others who may be suffering from the same PMO effects and as you saw yourself for an example, @fullyrecovered actually benefited from it. You make it sound through your statements that I need to somehow try to convince people otherwise I could be seen as a liar ... if that was the case, for what purpose would I be lying ? Just so you know, I hate and despise stubborn/arrogant folks who do not actually recognize the good deeds that other people are trying to do to others. I have no benefits in sharing that PMO can cause diabetes. and I am actually SICK AND TIRED of ignorant people trying to keep spreading the message that masturbation is actually healthy like those STUPID articles try to convince people because of dumb/meaningless studies. I do not trust anything stated by a human a 100%, I can tell you that I will trust what my body communicates to me a 100% though. so I don't care what any silly study can say on masturbation. Masturbation to me is as dangerous as a drug, especially if over-practiced. I know what it did to me. Just like ANIMAL-BASED products (e.g meat, dairy) are terrible for health.

    Just my two cents.
     
  11. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    That's an impressive A1C change. It's just hard to believe it's all by No PMO alone. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just trying to understand. I'm not attacking you, I am actually trying to understand you and I think you might be onto something.

    I agree with you completely on this, animal-based diets are the biggest reason we are seeing so many chronic diseases.

    How often were you doing PMO at your worst?
    Are you following a strict whole food plant-based diet? When did you start in relation to your A1C results?
    How much exercise, prior to NoFap and now?
    What is your BMI when your A1C was 12? BMI now?

    You spoke of a couple supplements in the thread, just wanted to see what you're taking. Sounds like you're not taking anything though. I count herbs as supplements too though, any of those?
     
  12. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    I'm not saying people should PMO, I agree with you that PMO is BAD.

    I'm not calling you a liar, I just have a healthy skepticism that most people have. Sometimes when people make bold claims, it's good to look at all the evidence. Feeling morally obligated to share your discoveries is the same thing as trying to convince others, we're just using different words that mean the same thing. Again, I think you're onto something and I want to believe you, I just want to make sure everything is legit.

    I think once you have completed a reboot from hard mode, masturbation that is not overdone and that doesn't involve P or fantasizing about P, can be a healthy thing. I think abuse of M is a bad thing and probably should not be a part of a typical/majority of fapstronaut's plans. I know these statements will bother you, but re-read them carefully, I do not endorse M for MOST Fapstronauts.

    I do believe in science, actually nobody has to believe in science, science is just figuring out the facts/truth. Just like the studies showing that plant-based diets are healthy/good, I'm sure you believe that too. Sometimes there can be confusion with different studies giving opposing conclusions, that just means more studies are needed, doesn't make science bad/dumb/meaningless. I also believe that you should listen to your own body as well, that's a given. But sometimes your own body can tell you something feels good and it actually isn't, for example PMO...

    I do believe that you believe you are doing a good deed, but unless we can go over all the data it's hard to come to a conclusion on this subject. If all the data fits, then what you are doing is very good. If the data doesn't fit, then maybe you could be misleading people into thinking they can stop all their medicines and just rely on No PMO to fix their diabetes, that is dangerous. I'm sure your intentions are good though, but sometimes our intentions can have unwanted consequences, see what I'm saying?

    Again, just trying to have a logical discussion, not calling you a liar.
     
  13. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker I believe my diabetes developed after I started fapping 3 to 4 times daily for months, I did an experiment of trying to overmasturbate 5 times a day for like a week just to see how this would affect my blood sugar. I never ever had a reading of blood sugar in the 400's, but during the 4th day of my experiment, my blood sugar was in the 400's and my blood pressure was like 220/120. I went to the emergency room because of my blood pressure. I AM MORE THAN 100% confident that DIABETES AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE in my case is due to PMO. I am AWARE that diabetes is a condition that could be triggered by many things especially being fat or overweight. In my specific case, it is triggered by PMO addiction. I have experimented it like 5 times to go on a nofap for a while and always after like the 21st day of hard mode nofap, my sugars were normal even after heavy carb meals. NO EXERCISE or MEDICATION involved. NOFAP ALONE.

    I got diagnosed with high blood pressure at 23 years old while in college at our health student center and I remember the nurse and doctor were shocked to see my blood pressure reading being so young and I was already a PMO addict. I masturbated at least like twice a day every single day. Masturbation not only made gave me hypertension and diabetes but it also affects me heavily physically. My testosterone levels are also very very low. Masturbation affects that. After I spend like 3 weeks on nofap, my testosterone goes up and low testosterone can cause insulin resistance. I use requestatest.com to take blood tests without a doctor's order through LabCorp.

    My goal is to give up masturbation entirely for at least 6 months and try to get involved in a healthy relationship. I also want to go vegan and eat only plant-based foods. I believe those two things would change me into a totally different person.
     
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  14. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker @fullyrecovered is an example of what I am talking about .... Anyway I feel like I've been over-repeating myself too much in this thread even after other users confirmed that this experiment actually cured them. This is getting so old. I hope this thread can help other people. For those who don't believe it, that's their own loss.
     
  15. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    Wow! That's impressive! I think you're right, in your case it's probably PMO related.

    Just a few more unanswered questions...
    Did the doctors tell you that your blood pressure is due to a genetic condition? Did they check for that?
    What was your BMI when your A1C was 12? BMI now? Just go to Google and type in BMI calculator...
    How much exercise were you doing prior to NoFap, and now?
    Compared to now, how was your diet when you were first diagnosed with diabetes and high blood pressure?
    How is your blood pressure now?

    @fullyrecovered isn't really answering any questions
     
  16. stack85

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    @ClaritySeeker Doctors could not answer anything, THEY WERE SHOCKED because I was too young and I already told you. BMI was 19 when a1c was 12, I WAS NOT overweight. No exercise was ever involved before and after Nofap streaks. I am telling you that IT HAS NOTHING to do with my WEIGHT. I STUDIED so much about diabetes that I could give lectures about it ok ? I'm tired of repeating myself on this thread, people can just read the testimonies, it's that simple really. I am telling you that PMO CAUSED it for me just like HOW YOU REALIZE CAFFEINE makes you sleepless. It's that obvious for me. I EVEN POSTED videos of doctors showing how low testosterone causes diabetes and they show how testosterone therapy CURES diabetes in some patientS. NOFAP raises my testosterone if I stick to it. Have a good one
     
  17. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    Although I believe you that No PMO is helping your diabetes and high blood pressure, I believe diet is the most important factor and PMO probably another factor but not as important as diet.
     
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    I used to think like you long time ago that diet was a factor. But think about it, we follow same diet for 30 years and nothing happens and then boom it happens, and some people have same diet but nothing happens even if they are above 30. The only thing that is different is loss of semen.

    Loss of semen inadversely relaxes muscles which results in poor blood flow to those areas, which means poor metabolism of nutrients and sugar. So sugar just stays there unmetabolized for days, however the areas that still have good blood flow can metabolize. Therefore you get mixed signals. From one side you are hungry, from the other side cells already have nutriets. This is why sugar problem happens. Once blood flow reestablishes sugar problem goes away.

    @stack85 I just hit the point where my body burns most of sugar and body temperature cools down like it used to when I was very healthy. So happy about it.
     
  19. Loss of semen obviously is a big deal but rest assured modern day diet is robbed of nutrients. There's an indirect correlation between disease rate and soils being pushed to the max. There are simply too many additives and chemicals in food that increase the risk of disease. All the more reason to keep the nutrients you do absorb in your body.
     
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  20. ClaritySeeker

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    Maybe it takes those 30 years for the food you think is "healthy" to finally start withering away at your health and you slowly start to develop diabetes. Maybe the people not developing diabetes are eating healthier, doing more exercise, have more resilient genetics, etc...Your explanation of semen loss causing poor blood flow (which is incorrect because M causes more blood flow) which causes poor metabolism of nutrients and sugar makes very little sense. You think your penis not using sugar is the cause for your diabetes?
    Eat healthier and you will fix your diabetes, diet is the most important thing you can do, I reversed my diabetes a couple years ago while still doing M 2-3x/day (no change in M from when my diabetes was diagnosed) and changing my diet only. Now I still M about once a week, but my A1C has not changed since my diet has been healthy for some time now.
     

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