Going to bed a lot earlier than before

So if i understand this right, you quit porn and went on to use whores instead?

My friend: you are no longer watching porn but instead jumping straight into the screen and inseminating the very women who make it...

In MY opinion, that's the furthest thing from recovery possible. It's like quitting being a drug dealer and sniffing the very coke you'd otherwise stand back and admire. (!) But again, that's just my opinion.

You more than met the criteria to post in this section and you have indeed quit porn (*applause*). But at what cost?

Your life. Your rules buddy. I honestly don't mean to rain on your parade at all. I'm just trying to understand what i just read, to be very frank. I never realised "success" could be so controversial.

 

Wow you were spot on with that post

 

Thank God it's not just me then.

Okay. I see.

 

The guys success story is one of the more different ones I have ever seen replacing one bad hobby with another more power to you buddy get help. I first read his post and thought someone way playing a prank but I think he was serous

 

I totally agree. i have started eating more salad and raw food. I feel great for it! Eating Junk Food is also a great way to establish bad conditions where disease can prosper
Thanks for the inspiration!

 

Riiiight so this is gonna be a like a dick-size contest here right? I'll have you know the last time i watched porn was March of this year. That's what- at least 150 days? But my counter is at 1 because unlike your mediocre standards, i have to hit reset for M and O as well. On what basis are you comparing your P counter with my PMO counter? Your standards are so low, so obviously you'll perform well in comparison. But behind your counter lies the fact that you need whores to run from porn whereas i used something men like to call "self-control". Don't make this personal because if you do, i can easily trample over your pathetic excuse of a "recovery plan".

If this is the case, why bring my counter into the spotlight? Ironically, it's far higher than yours if only P is concerned. And i'm 18 by the way. You're a 21 year old man. This recently turned adult is miles ahead of you as far as recovery is concerned. Let that sink in before you try to get personal. I mentioned in my post that i wasn't trying to be rude or anything but you just had to escalate it, right?

Morally? Just morally?
Biologically, spiritually (if you're religious) and ethically, i'm in the right here. Nobody asked you to deny sex. You set your own standards. I'm just pointing out that if you need prostitutes to satiate that need, you're definitely not in recovery. The idea here is dopamine. It is the fundamental hormone in all addictions and interacts with delta-fosB to produce the phenomenon of urges. You aren't recovering at all; you're getting the same (even higher actually) levels of dopamine from women who sell themselves for sex.

Right. Your life. I was very clear to mention this in my post. Your life; your rules.
So be a mature 21 year old here, act according to your words and stop comparing your P streak to an 18 year old's PMO streak.

 

Again, it's higher than yours so i don't know what you mean by this. And last i checked, i didn't have sex with any whore in my life Some of us are able to attact females without paying for them and even so, i insist on being a virgin because i know that if i'm unable to handle M, i'll be unable to handle a possible sex addiction, which you seem to be developing by the way o.o
I love that you're unable to contradict anything i've said and so remain focused on my current counter. I've joined nofap for 9 months now and i had a 101 day streak already meaning at least 3 months have been completely PMO free. The real estimate would be 6 months including all my other streaks but that's not the point here, is it? The real deal here is that your criteria for success is warped to the point of being no real success at all. I'm saying this ironically out of concern for you because you can easily contract a venereal disease this way. At least P and M don't give anyone those.

I'm focusing on the only part of your story that makes it a success and hence pertinent to this section. It's great you lost your breasts, really, but that has nothing to do with the criteria for being here, which just so happens to be 30 days of achieving your goal- a goal which is in this case so self-contradictory that i'm unable to fathom why a man who is 3 years older than me can't understand or come to terms with. I'm not questioning that you really reached 30+ on your counter; i'm questioning the validity of your method and so far, you have given absolutely no appropriate reply to that and are instead adamant on focusing on my PMO counter (which is most unanalogous to your P counter). Like i said, if P streaks alone are considered, i still surpass you.

If you don't respect criticism, why should you expect others to respect your point of view? Strangely enough, i'm still managing to do that with you so this behaviour is most one-sided.
And on the same note, you are on a forum. If you don't expect people to give their opinions and advice, leave. The only place here you can post utter nonense like this and escape critiques is your in own journal. You're the one out of place here


I recommend you see an addictions counsellor and admit to them that you've replaced one addiction with another. I'm sure you can find some help in a professional because you're unable to see the errors in your ways. But that's still fine you know. You live and you learn. Don't let the age thing bother you.
I also recommend you find some time for self contemplation and meditate on your state of affairs. Only once you see the list of problems can you solve them.
I would additionally recommend you educate yourself on the biology behind addictions. Yourbrainonporn is the best site to start off with in this case actually. You can't see an error unless you have knowledge, after all.
Lastly, i also recommend you turn to whatever faith you (may) believe in and ask a man of religion if your God condones and encourages prostitution. It's always good to have Godly advice.

 

You do realise i mentioned that because i have much higher libido at 18 than you do at 21 right? And i'm managing better than you. You could take it to be motivation like most people would, but i forgot you're most definitely not like most people lol

1. You ought to be more mature than me at 21. You are not.
2. You ought to have better self control at 21. You do not.
3. You ought to learn from experience and advice. You refuse it outright.
4. You compared yourself to me to start off with actually. So don't blow a fuse when i point out your blatant incompetency. Face facts. You are childlike and rude. I had no malintent when i came here but your reply was far from decent (or true lol)

Prostitutes are "interested" in everybody with a wallet. :O

This is a case of a pot calling the kettle black. This is not my thread so i won't answer with my personal life experiences on the matter, but i can assure you, i have been raised in an environment where dignity outranks virginity. I can understand you may have had poor parenting on the matter but i do not. I have been taught that love and dignity precede intercourse. And i have rather painfully upheld that morale to date. You, obviously, have no such thoughts to begin with.


I'd like to point out at this stage that this thread is really beginning to steer off from it's original subject matter. You haven't answered a single question i have posed so far and instead persist on engaging me personally. Again, for someone 3 years older than me, act like the more mature person here please.

 

And because of the 4 other reasons I gave, yes. Don't blame me, you're the who who started comparing.

Quitting porn at the cost of replacing them with prostitutes strikes you as a success?

 

Tbh, trashing someone because of their 1 day streak is just mean -_-. Just because you have a better streak than them, doesn't give you the right to trash them.

 

Funny thing is, he still doesn't XD