Woman clothing & other that increased my chances of lust: (I'm not necesarily saying that if you do them you are sining or are mundane, im only saying that these made it easier for me to lust women) Short hot pink/bright red dye(not talking about women with natural redhair) Strong make up: strong red lipstick, exagerated black eyelashes. Exaggerated face powder. Big-medium earrings. Showing shoulders. Showing neckline, cleveage. Using shorts( particularly jeans) Using tight jeans. Showing navel. Showing back. Bikini bathing suit. ( but not the one used by professional female swimmers.) Big-medium tattoos in any part of the body except face. (Any art really, it doesnt matter, and when black lust was higher than when colored) Big-medium collar ( it made followed my eyes to the cleavage.) Piercing in navel.
When I'm on a long streak, I also find everyday women extremely arousing (often for things I wouldn't have noticed before). I don't think this is a problem, because lust for women is a natural evolutionary drive. In fact, I see this as a sign of healing, because my goal with Nofap is to experience my sexuality the way that men did before modern porn existed. However, I know that not every Nofapper's goals align with mine. Best of luck to you.
Well even though arousal from women is pretty natural and normal, obsession with it is not. Also even though one partially falls in love with a woman becausebof her physique, it shouldn't be her sexual parts but her face, hair, eyes, smile, eyebrows, hands, feet etc not her curves. That sexual arousal should be for your wife only(for sex). So if you easily get aroused by women much than you did before PMO, youre still on the way, when you see women's beauty as women and not sexual stimulants then you're really healing not so much from PMO but from a mundane mind and you will transcend and sex will be born out of selfish love for one another (not selfish sex as most do) and you will experience the way you are supposed to feel sex, how it was meant by God. I know you'll heal, just forget pills(use natural remedies), and avoid meditating on sexual things, avoid possible triggers and most importantly seek God's help, he'll surely help you trust me.
It's important to develop self-control. It's unrealistic to expect women to not wear at least some of those things.
I'm confused to what you are trying to say. Are you saying these clothing items made you more or less lustful?
I'm just telling my experience so that women may grow some conciousness, subconciously they think they do it to look more pretty, something they confuse for "hot", when in reality they do it to show off their body so men may appreciate them (for their body) when they actually should work in their interior more than the exterior if they really want appreciation from men or anyone in general. More lustful than normal. Even though this thread was directed towards women originally ( my bad wasnt clear in the title.) About your post, it's not about what goes on with your eyes but your heart.
Hmm, very interesting topic. To tell the truth, she made me a little angry. Do you seriously think that women are to blame for your lust? Even a hat can excite you, and what now, she should not wear it? You even made a list. I'll still wear what I like and I don't care what anyone thinks about it. Even jewelry makes you lust? It's very beautiful, I love jewelry. I do not dispute that there are women who dress too provocatively, but this is everyone's business. What I can say is, learn to control your lust. ________________________ https://www.chvker.com/collections/necklaces
You do realize that your supposed to like women? For evolutionary purposes. Just don’t confuse the hormones with liking someone. You may find them attractive but you don’t know the personality until you meet them.
I do understand your views here. I think about women who pose provocatively on Instagram or nude on Reddit. They want to be seen for more than their body but then they pose for pictures in barely anything. Sometimes it doesn't make sense. Regardless of their motivation, we should be in control of ourselves. It's not up to women to dress down for our benefit; it is up to us to deal with our own lust. I have this issue too. When I run to the store, especially when the weather is warm, there are always women who wear very tight pants or shorts and sometimes tops that expose cleavage. I've only been no pmo for a little over a month and yet I have not yet stopped objectifying women. I have to work on that and I believe that is part of the reboot process. I've been watching porn and fapping to it for about 30 years so there is no way my reboot will be anywhere NEAR as complete in one month. While I'm on this journey, I'm working on looking at women as total human beings. Making women responsible is as bad as when a man rapes a woman and says that by what she was wearing, she provoked him. Nope. Our thoughts and our bodies must be controlled by OUR minds. We just have to learn to realize we are thinking of women as objects and remind ourselves they have minds, personalities, and hearts too.