Why is masturbation said to be a healthy habbit

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by 18 year old newbie, Apr 9, 2023.

  1. 18 year old newbie

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    I don't understand which scientist says that masturbation is a ''natural'' and ''healthy'' habit on basis of which research. Many famous journals and psychiatrist often say that masturbating 5-6 times a week or daily is quite normal and it doesn't have any harmful effects on our health. Why is that so? Till now, I have never felt that masturbation is healthy or natural habit. I tried to convince myself many times that most of my friends masturbate, so why should I not?
    Can anyone explain please?
    Is this some kind of conspiracy or is it actually hood for our health?
     
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  2. L.LAWLIET

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    Some people can develop an addiction to masturbation, or what some call “sex addiction.” However, this term is not recognized in the “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders” (DSM-5) and is not considered by some to be a true addiction.

    You may be spending too much time masturbating if masturbation causes you to:

    • skip chores or daily activities
    • miss work or school
    • cancel plans with friends or family
    • miss important social events
    Masturbating may be considered too much if it causes harm to your relationships and other parts of your life or if it interrupts your work or studies.

    It may also hurt your romantic relationships and friendships because you don’t spend as much time with your loved ones as you used to or you don’t pay attention to their needs.

    If you’re worried you may be masturbating too much, consider speaking with a doctor or a counselor about ways to cut down.

    If you would like to masturbate less, consider talk therapy. You could also try cutting down by replacing masturbation with other activities. Next time you have an urge to masturbate, you can try:

    • going for a run
    • writing in a journal
    • spending time with friends
    • going for a walk

    REMEMBER BROTHER PORN AND MASTURBATION IS NEVER GOOD FOR YOU.
     
  3. L.LAWLIET

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    Masturbation does not have a huge impact in your physical health. But It's dangerous for your mental health. So, be careful my friend they just want you to stick with this addictive game. Remember brother porn industry is a million billion dollars industry the more you watch porn the more they earn.
     
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  4. HealingBodyandMind

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    No conspiracy; just that these people claiming these things are not that sensitive and really believe what they are saying. Just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean they are even very smart, its a false idol
     
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  5. Lost-Time

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    I think it varies from person to person.

    For me, porn and masterbation together is bad for me, due to this factor of "extended time".
    You release 100x plus more dopamine from 8 hours of continuous porn and masterbation, than from just 10 minutes of plain masterbation and ejaculation.

    So I think the key element is "time". How much time and frequency you do things, such that it becomes a problem. And that varies from person to person.
    If you masterbate like 3 times a day, everyday, that is excessive, and it's going to affect your life.

    I'm in the camp, that if you masterbate like once every 3 days or 1 week for less than 30 minutes, you are okay.
    It's not going to hurt you, just as long as you don't spend many hours doing it.

    So my goals would be different than everyone elses, and that's okay.
     
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  6. StevenR

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    There's a simple formula which applies like multiplication by zero.
    Bad thing x too much = bad outcome
    Good thing x too much = bad outcome
     
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  7. loneloan

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    isnt the modern (or post-modern) approval of masturbation rooted in the "kinsey report"?
     
  8. The worst is over

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    Yes it does.
    Some of it is a conspiracy actually. Particularly the prostate cancer myth. And not to mention that p hub premium was free during the plandemic. There’s a reason for that.
     
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    Yes it will.
     
  10. Lost-Time

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    And how will it hurt you? What is the reason?
    I have been hurt by porn, but not by masturbation alone. It was never addictive for me.
    Masterbation is natural. Porn is not.
    I think it's healthy to blow your load every once in a while just as long as you don't spend excessive time on it, and frequency.

    If I can get off porn completely for life, I would be very happy. No need stressing myself out with "no everything". That's just too extremely, and I don't see the benefit of going excessive on avoidance. If I ever start on spending too much time masterbating or too often, then I would consider, adding "no masterbation" to my list, but I don't think that will happen given that "masterbation alone" isn't the root cause of my problems, and it's really not that interesting or fun for me.
     
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    Really? So you watched porn without masturbating?
    Really? Gripping your nob with your own hand and stroking it until orgasm is natural? I would have never guessed. It’s probably even more natural if you use something like a flesh light right?
    how often? And what’s healthy about it?
     
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  12. Lost-Time

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    No, I watch porn and masterbate. That is the problem. PORN causes me to masturbate, and waste endless hours.
    And every hour floods my brain with so much dopamine to keep me hooked.
    Without porn, I would not masterbate much at all, and not enough for me to consider it a problem in my life.

    Basically, masterbation without porn doesn't really happen often for me, or for as long a duration.
    When I masterbate without porn, it's more satisfying to get it out quickly, than to pro-long to experience more.
    That is the difference. Hence it's not addictive for me specifically.
    I can't speak for everyone else, because everyone is different.

    And I think it's different whether you do with hands or not. If you do with hands, you will spend too much time.
    Instead get on your stomach and just hump the bed, and it will be fast. Maybe that's why it doesn't waste too much of my time, because I don't use my hands.

    If masturbation affects your life, then you should remove it.
    But if it doesn't, and you don't waste much time or frequency on it, then just treat it like nature calling to unload.
     
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    No porn doesn’t cause you to masturbate. You watch porn because you want to masturbate.
    Have you put that to the test? You’re 46 years old. Surely you remember a time when you masturbated without porn... it was not always this available. I was addicted to masturbating using only my imagination when I first discovered it. It was only like 4 years later when I had a smart phone with internet connection that I started using porn to do it.
    ive never done that, and it’s an awfully strange way to do it. Neither way makes a difference though.
     
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  14. Lost-Time

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    Like I said, everyone is different.

    In the past, when I was young, I masterbated to without porn, just my imagination.
    I was not addicted and it was not a problem. I didn't seek out porn because I wanted to masterbate.
    I could masterbate without porn.

    After I got hooked on porn, watching porn would make me want to masterbate, or get blue-balls. I was seeking out the visual / linked enjoyment of porn. It was not that I seeked out porn, because I wanted to masterbate. It was the other way around.

    So for me, porn triggers the desire to masterbate with my hands to avoid blue balls. Now, when you use your hands, you can control it, so to prolong the enjoyment, so it can last for many hours.
    That is what makes it addictive.

    My point is, if I can remove my desire to look at porn, and just not look at porn, then I would not be
    masterbating with my hands, which allows me to do that for many hours.

    With porn out of the way, my only way to masturbate would be the way I did it since I was a teenager.
    I would just get on my belly on the bed, and hump it. That makes it easier for it to finish and end, so I don't waste much time.
    Believe it or not, that feels alot more real that way, almost like missionary style. So lucky me, that I prefer it this way,
    and not with hands.

    My theory is, don't use your hands. It can get addictive, because you are delaying, and extending the time,
    and that may be why some people get addicted to masturbation.

    I don't like using my hands, when I am not watch porn, so maybe that's why it doesn't affect me.
    Because I have less control over how long it lasts. But porn forces me to use the hand method,
    and I can go for like 8+ hours straight on that. That is where the problem is.

    My normal method of masturbating only robs 15 to 20 minutes out my life, and after I am done,
    I don't feel like it until my sperm load comes back in a few days to a week.
     
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    You would have to be more specific for me to believe that.
    sure, might not waste much time. But you just wasted your God given sexual energy and semen.
     
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  16. Lost-Time

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    To be specific, how you know you are addicted is when: 1. you spend too much time on something. 2. you do something too frequently / repeating.
    Because I did neither when it came to masturbation only, I can say, I am not addicted.

    I wished I could say the same about porn. I am very addicted to Porn. Take away the porn addiction, and I wouldn't be left with a masturbation addiction. Problem solved, and I get back to my life before porn.
     
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    You keep saying that but it all sounds very hypothetical to me. Doesn’t sound like you’ve actually proved that to yourself. You’re just assuming that’s the truth.
    when I said be specific, I meant tell me how often you did it. Your criteria for addiction is meaningless if I don’t know what frequency you consider to be too frequent.
     
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    Yeah by natural I definitely didn’t mean justifying my actions based on what wild animals can rarely be seen doing. I meant more along the line of whether or not something is being used as it was intended. As a matter of fact, it would be just as unnatural for animals do those things. Thanks for that one though. If you really think homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom, you are surely deluded.
     
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  19. HealingBodyandMind

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    I think there is a difference in perspective here though. Two competing ideas of what is "natural" because of two competing ideas of where humans originated from. There is the evolutionary idea that humans are related to all of the other animals around us - the idea that humans and primates have a common ancestor in the phylogenetic tree. Therefore, some of the similar behaviors in so called "wild animals" will also be seen as similar to human beings.

    But there is another perspective, which is that a Creator established each animal separately, on its own. And that also humans were created separately, on their own. Therefore, there is no reason for similarity between any animals in relation to a human being. Similarities in behavior represent the fallen nature of humans, who, when not acting in an upright manner as was intended by the Creator, will act similarly to an animal.

    And of course, there is the 3rd idea that the Creator used evolution in order to bring about the human species. But if that is the case, then still the second example holds true, that similar behaviors exhibited by wild animals and humans are the result of a defect in the human.

    I guess another perspective would be that there exists an alternative God, which is not the God of the Judaic religions. If this is this case, then anyone can create whatever story they like to live by, it really wouldn't matter anymore because everything would be delegated back to being a "mystery"

    So in closing, I don't think these multiple perspectives can really coexist very well.

    So these two perspectives are competing. And I really don't think these two perspectives can ever agree upon anything.
     
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    Actually the psychopaths who are in cults like freemasonry and other secret societies worship nature, rather than God. There are no rules in nature. Animals kill, rape, steal, whatever. They don’t have a conscience like humans do. But psycopathic humans live by the laws of nature rather than the God given conscience of right and wrong. So anyone who would look to nature to justify their behaviour is a psychopath.
     
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