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Starting NoFap - advice please?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Rail junkie, Jan 28, 2024.

  1. Rail junkie

    Rail junkie Fapstronaut

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    Hi all, newcomer here! Thanks for having me :)

    So long story short mine (20) and my partners (20) relationship nearly completely collapsed around 2 years ago due to my porn addiction. They helped me realise my addiction and began helping me change. It decimated their self confidence and it's still something we're working on now. Since then I reset a few times (each time they found out) but I've not watching pornography of other people in a very long time. I have still masturbated since then to their nudes and videos we have with each other, which has mentally felt far better than before. I have no desire or anything to watch porn of other people, however I still think about porn quite frequently, so I want to try NoFap to try and rewire my brain completely, as I still feel immensely guilty about it, and I'm very conscious of how far we've since come (we are now engaged, living together and planning our futures.) I'm looking for some advice on a few things that I'm thinking about, which I'll list off.

    1. I do enjoy being sexual with my partner. I know and understand that the dopamine has a massive effect, but for me having sex with my partner has always been immensely romantic, and goes beyond the 'having sex' bit. I've always focused on their pleasure more than my own, and I don't view them or our sex like any pornography I've ever seen. We also don't have sex an awful lot, which doesn't bother me at all as it then adds to that moment feeling the way it does since its not just a thing we do to feel good, its a moment between us. Because of this, I'm thinking of doing the PM reboot, would anyone who has tried this or has these same feelings in their relationship be able to give some input into how it was for them?

    2. I enjoy seeing my partner naked in photos and the like. I sometimes look at the photos not in a sexual way, but just in an admiring way. Would viewing these still class as porn, or simply me admiring my other half, and if so would it affect my reboot to look at these?

    3. I've seen a lot mentioned about the positives of rebooting, and I am incredibly excited to experience so many of them, but one that concerns me is regards sensitivity. To be blunt, sometimes I can last around 20 seconds, or I'll orgasm straight away when we start. Could rebooting possibly make that worse? (it wont affect my reboot, but its just to note to possibly think about seeing a doctor about or something like that)

    4. I saw on The Basics of Rebooting that many people return to masturbation following their reboot. This is more of an intrigue rather than anything else, but if anyone has done that, how is masturbation without porn? I've watched porn since being around 11-12 years old and I've only ever masturbated with porn. Did you notice your desire to do it was less, or was it not that affected by your reboot?

    5. If you've rebooted and come and joined this community, have you told your partner, and if so did it help? I want to tell them that I've joined to completely nip it in a bud, but I don't want them to think that I have been going behind their back again and betraying their trust and I've only done this out of regret of a reset.

    Thats most of the things on my mind at the moment about it. I apologise if I've not worded it great or come across as a bit much, to be honest I'm incredibly nervous to join and start talking but the posts I've read so far on here have been really inspiring so I'm happy to be surrounded by you all, so thank you for that.

    Have a wonderful weekend everyone <3
     
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  2. Warfman

    Warfman Fapstronaut

    1. My experience has definitely changed certain parts of my sexual expectations. It also revealed that a void of emotional connection is just as much of not more damaging to a relationship than the physical sex. I relate to what you said about focusing on their pleasure more than your own. Word of caution, even though that may sound like a better alternative than being a self serving person. It can be a covert way of manipulation and abuse as well. You might enjoy the book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover. The audio book is free on YouTube.

    2. I'm extremely physically attracted to my wife, it sounds like you are as well with your partner. That's great you feel that way. As far as looking at the nudes I think the main issue is whether or not you feel you are objectifying her or not. There's a lot of grey area and complexity behind that statement. It's probably worth taking with her about that and deciding how you both feel.

    3. It might be an issue at the beginning. There are some who have said this improves in time. I can't really say yet for myself personally.

    4. I am holding myself to a no PM rule. Relapses with M alone after 118 days. Though I did fantasize about my wife. The following weeks I did experience more urges for PMO. It started slow. And I ended up fully relapsing. I think we give ourselves permission to what we think is ok individually. If you find M alone may lead to P cravings you may want to remove both. If it isn't an issue maybe you can. Be brutally honest with yourself and I bet you'll figure out what works for you.

    5. Honesty honesty and more honesty with your partner that's the solution.
     
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  3. Rail junkie

    Rail junkie Fapstronaut

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    Yeah that all makes sense to be honest, thanks for the advise!
     
  4. Be Inspired

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    Hello and welcome to the forum

    My advice to anyone is to stay away from social media. Most relapses start on social media.

    This addiction is not fun. It's not a feel good addiction and it will ruin your life and it will ruin your relationship

    Having read your post, I would be extremely careful with the nude photos from your S.O.
    Nudes are nudes. Nudes trigger fantasy.
    It may not be a big deal now but get some abstinence from the PMO and you will see how much more sensitive you become.

    Most people fail at reboot because most people are not willing to make the necessary sacrifices to abstain from the addiction

    I hope this helps
     
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  5. Warren of fleabags

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    Welcome to the forum. I would second everything that is said above, especially with regards to social media. I have had an almost wipe of these sites and have a very strict routine with my phone when I come home from work so I am not scrolling and potentially opening the door to acting out.

    Warfman is totally right about the honesty aspect. The only way we can repair our relationships is by being brutally honest with ourselves and our loved ones when we fall. It will hurt and will be a rough ride at times but I genuinely believe my wife and I are in a much better place because of my honesty and willingness to do something about this selfish addiction.
     
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  6. Rail junkie

    Rail junkie Fapstronaut

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    Just thought I'd return with a bit more input as i was in a rush when i replied. I told my partner before this thread even had a response tbh and they're proud I'm taking this step. I've always tried to be as open as humanly possible with them and it really had paid off. The point of no PM is interesting, ill 100% keep it in mind while I continue!
     
  7. Rail junkie

    Rail junkie Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for the reply, I completely agree with all of this. The only social media I really use now is facebook to talk to my family and snapchat to talk to my friends back home as they never reply via regular text. The points on the nudes are really helpful, it's giving me a lot more insight from a third party which is what i think will really help me on this path to sobriety. Thank you once again for your reply and advise!
     
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  8. Rail junkie

    Rail junkie Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for the reply, I agree with everything here. Like mentioned I spoke to my partner when they got home and I'm really glad I got to it so quickly. My issue with my honesty has always been that i have full intentions of being honest but delay and delay, usually resulting in it only coming out once my partner had found out, so now I just bite the bullet and get it out ASAP. It's massively helped since I've started
     
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