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my partner does not believe in me

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by jasonmark, Dec 4, 2023.

  1. jasonmark

    jasonmark Fapstronaut

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    guys i know this is an easy question but my partner tends to loose hope on me although I am really eager to change and showing her more that I ever did than before.

    I am just loosing hope on moments she say something that puts down my fire to change. I just need some advice or some sort. I know this is not the right place to ask since this is about PMO and stuff but I just don't know where to ask this questions. Thank you in advance.
     
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  2. Alarden

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    With all due respect, I think you’re in the right place to ask. We’re all in this together. I’ll tell what I think: women ALWAYS try to put us down, in order to check if we respect ourselves enough. She’s testing how much power she has over you. Jordan Peterson said that, if I’m not wrong. Once she starts noticing that you can act independently, no matter what she thinks or what she says, that’s the moment when she’ll stop trying to put you down. Respect yourself, don’t relay on her to walk the nofap way. Keep this fight to yourself and the brothers in this forum. She’ll notice the change w/o needing to tell her. Once you start respecting yourself, she’ll follow. The only hope you need is yours. You’re the only one who has to believe in you. The world then will follow.
     
  3. jasonmark

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    hey I really appreciate your take on this brother! I really do. I will take note of what you said and continue with my reboot. thanks again!
     
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  4. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    How long have you been cheating on her and lying? That could account for her lack of hope. No, women don’t ALWAYS want to put their partners down, in fact, generally, it’s the sex/porn addict who has consistently put down their spouse while in addiction. Your wife has betrayal trauma. You have seriously damaged her and she will need help to heal from this. Good resources for you - Helping Her Heal,
    Worthy of Her Trust, Out Of the Doghouse, Treating Pornography Addiction by Dr. Kevin Skinner , Out of the Shadows by Carnes.
     
  5. jasonmark

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    Brother thank you for those resources. I am already reading Worthy of Her Trust book and its soo damn good like it really speaking to me. I have been emotionally cheating on her for years and yes she has been traumatized and our marriage is on the edge now. I appreciate your inputs brother.
     
  6. Alarden

    Alarden Fapstronaut

    If you think so, that’s fine. It’s in line with today’s feminist thinking, where she is always the victim, and male are the villain. If you’re comfortable thinking that way, I respect that, but I disagree.

    Step 9 of AA step program says: (We) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

    Telling her is a subconscious way of making an amend.

    OP keeping her wife up with his struggle , is probably making her feeling shame, guilt and mistrust. It only makes things worst. And by telling her she’s victim of trauma, it puts him in complete disadvantage, and it’s a matter of time for her to leave. Women want men that respect themselves. They want strong men (both fisically and psychologically) to take care of them, not boys to be taking care of.

     
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  7. jasonmark

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    I appreciate this brother! Thanks again for the advice. I will dig deeper with Peterson's content about what I am going through.
     
  8. Psalm27:1my light

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    Lying to her and keeping secrets injures her. She has been through a traumatic event. She has been at a disadvantage in the relationship for their entire marriage because of his cheating and lying. It will only be a matter of time before she leaves if he continues to cheat and lie, that, I agree with. That is the action of someone who only cares about himself and chooses to not be a decent person to his wife. If he cannot be faithful, honest, and loving, he deserves to lose her and should stay single until he can learn how to treat a partner.
    Girls want someone to take care of them, women want a partner, not a cheating, lying man- child they cannot trust. Women want men who respect them.
     
  9. Real Jerry Seinfeld

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    Just to add, my partner basically never puts me down. If someone's putting you down for no good reason, that's not acceptable and reflects poorly on them.

    It could be though that a failure to change in the past has given them what they perceive to be legitimate doubts about your motivation. I don't know, we don't have the full picture.

    I would just focus on your recovery. If disclosures on your part meet with a negative response, just keep your own counsel. Just do whatever maximises your odds of kicking the habit. You'll be in a better position to negotiate the issue of trust or faith in your resolve once you're a couple months clean.
     
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  10. Alarden

    Alarden Fapstronaut

    I told my wife I had this issue, a year ago, once. And that was all. Never spoke again of it. She knows my struggle, my efforts to overcome it, and she supports me. But I don’t keep talking about it, I won’t allow this to monopolize my conversations and relationship, and definitely I won’t give her the power to manipulate me thanks to PMO.

    You have to be sincere, but also have to be WISE. One thing is to lie, and another different is to be so open about you that you put yourself in disadvantage.

    The virtue is in the happy medium
     
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  11. jasonmark

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    I appreciate your advice brother it really helps! Thank you!
     
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  12. jasonmark

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    Same thoughts I just have to continue with what I am doing to improve myself and hoping she will see my efforts in the end. Thanks guys!
     
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  13. ANewFocus

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    The likely reason she is putting you down is because she is still hurting deeply inside. That may hurt you, but like you are a journey to grow out of your addiction, she will have to eventually find her journey to grow out of her pain.
     
  14. If you have any hope of her ever trusting you again and you want to heal your marriage, then you need to let her decide what she needs to know about your recovery. Some SO's don't want to know all the details. Some do. And, many are somewhere in between. So, you have to ask her...let her tell you what info she needs to be able to trust again and heal. If you think you can decide for her, don't be surprised if she continues to not trust you.

    If she says she needs to know what's going on in his recovery, he needs to be honest. If he isn't, that will cause mistrust and make things worse. She's the one at a disadvantage because she's the one who's been lied to and cheated on. That's what made her the victim...not telling her the truth.

    When someone makes a bunch of excuses for why they shouldn't finally give their SO the truth and respect they deserve, they're still letting the addiction control their choices, and it will only end badly.
     
  15. Warfman

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    Something maybe to add to this is understanding that the feelings of the SO are going to bounce around a lot. There's going to be times where they may want to know more, others when they'd rather not think about it at all. So don't go in thinking that the SO has to have what they need figured out the first time they are asked. Be open to an array of feelings and be prepared to communicate about them over time.
     
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  16. jasonmark

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    Thanks for all your reply here. I am still struggling being honest to my spouse although I am practicing but sometimes I tend to forget some of my wrong doings from the past. Yes and I acknowledge her pains that I have caused but sometimes it gets to me so bad that I feel lonely at times.
     
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  17. Robindale

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    Would agree with Psalm - all very good books and will help you and give you some perspective.
     
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  18. Robindale

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    If you're going to disclose, then fully disclose with the help of a professional therapist. Don't have disclosures come out in a drip, drip, drip fashion. That will just keep causing severe pain and hurt her ability to heal and ever trust you again when she's going to feel like "when is the other shoe going to drop."
     
  19. jasonmark

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    Yes i get this point but sometimes I tend to forget details due to shame and fear from the past not unless she discovers it. Thanks for your idea here brother!
     
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