P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

I really need help and advice from you guys, I'm really really scared!!

So what happened last night is i was at a party, i got very drunk, and there was this girl who was sort of getting very touchy with me. There was sexual tension. We might have hugged a couple of times while dancing but nothing more happened. At the end when everyone was going to sleep, i was laying beside her, and we both were half asleep, she came a little closer and i leaned in for a kiss but, before anything could happen, i came. As soon as i realised that i was about to come, even before it happened, i got up and went to the other room and i was O'ing while i was walking to the room, and i slept alone. Nothing happened between us. My manhood was not stimulated at all, but i just O'd because of the build up i guess. I was very drunk throughout the whole incident. I woke and i cried like hell thinking i might have relapsed, and also because i just completed one year of no pmo and this happened so unexpectedly.

Please tell if according to you, this was a relapse or not, i really need help, I'm very scared and depressed. Thank you so much.

 

If now 5 people write that they think it's a relapse, and 5 people write that it's not a relapse. How will this help you?
Just keep recovering and don't listen to anyone.

 

I can't tell you whether it was a relapse or not but I can tell you what happened to me as I experienced something similar.

Around month 11 I woke up from a vivid sexual dream, when trying to get back to sleep I still had the thoughts and images fresh in my mind. I then touched my D for a few seconds, admittedly for no other reason than because it felt nice, when I took it away I felt the O happening and I couldn't stop it. Afterwards my genitals basically disappeared and retracted into my body(so much for the "jumpstarting" libido theory), this lasted a good month or so and now two months on it's close to how it was before but I still feel the effects of it. What really freaked me out was that on the rare occasion that I experienced an erection during this time, it felt hard but it was like 25% of my D had disappeared.

I also felt like I was constantly on the brink of O'ing again, any wrong thought or move was enough to get me close. Again, that has gradually improved. Diarrhea also returned and lasted a few weeks, if you don't typically experience this from a relapse then it's probably not relevant in your case. Tiredness also increased a lot and lasted a couple of weeks. Despite these symptoms though it didn't "feel" like a relapse, my overall PAWS state didn't feel altered. I still don't know if I set myself back or it just made me feel worse for a while. I know what setting yourself back to zero(or worse) feels like and this wasn't it.

No one really knows exactly how all of this works but I think as long as you avoid firing up the addicted pathways then recovery should still happen regardless of these other kind of incidents, though obviously they are best avoided as much as possible.

 

You are close to full healing. You can already train in the gym and have a somewhat normal life, I can barely leave the house because my PAWS symptoms are so bad.

 

I think we are taking the reboot process to an extreme and is not healthy. It's ok mate if an O happened. You didn't plan for it, and even if a relapse here and there happens we are humans here, trying to do the best we can with this situation we didn't plan for. Keep rebooting, that's what matters.

 

A lot of nofappers here have a perfectionist mentality. They'll see people who've recently relapsed and will say that they aren't trying or they need better willpower. Trust me quitting and even getting to the place where we are at now is VERY difficult. I remember like 5 years ago when I couldn't get past a few days. So be happy congratulate yourself for going this far, you are doing well just complete this final stride!

 

I remember exactly this happened to me at the 6 month mark, I was absolutely devastated. But looking back it wasn't the end of world, and pretty much part of recovery. I feel as though you are being pretty hard on yourself - you have a solid year 'under your belt'. That is something to celebrate.

A good idea might be to count how many days/weeks it takes to get back to your prior state. You could then use that time period to get an idea of how much more recovery time you might need. Keep going, you're good.

 

Already? It has taken nearly 5 years to get to this point.

 

Friend, the fact that you were able to orgasm without any stimulation to your manhood I would see as a sign of progress. Your lifeforce is running high.

You've done nothing wrong. It was not in your control. Situations like these are also part of the journey and perhaps even the learning curve. Because of this experience next time you will be able to anticipate and prevent similar devolopment.

So no worries. Your mighty streak is alive

 

Thank you so much for sharing this experience brother, in a sense it's quite similar, always feels great to know that people have shared similar experiences and your not alone. Tbh, even I'm not getting that "feeling" that I've relapsed, might have fallen back a bit, but not all is gone, that's what i feel, thank you so much again for sharing this.

 

Thank you so much mate, even i feel sometimes i can be a little too hard on myself. But i shall learn for this experience and use this as motivation to not slip up in similar ways. Recovery shall be continued.

 

Thank you so much brother, means a lot coming from you. It's just that recovery has been my top most priority and I've put in everything I've got into this reboot so it kinda feels sad when slip ups like this happen unexpectedly.
As far as "getting back to my prior state" goes, surprisingly I'm already feeling pretty normal, the hangover is gone and the brain fog is lifting, it's hasn't even been 24hrs since the incident happened. I feel like a goodnight sleep and hitting the gym tomorrow, would do wonders. But anyways I don't wanna get ahead of myself, I'll take a step back and try and analysis how i feel for a couple weeks and then come to a conclusion. But this doesn't feel as bad as a relapse.

Also I'm thinking of cutting out alcohol for 6 months straight, anyways i don't like it that much and I drank very rarely as it is, it's not something i would honestly be missing. I want to use this as motivation and learn from this experience. Thanks again!

 

Thank you so very much for this assurance mate. It honestly means a lot. Even i was thinking the same thing. If anything, this experience will only help me be cautious about the future. I shall be more conscious about things like these. The thing about the "life force running high" might actually be true. Feels good to know that. I feel very positive and motivated for the journey ahead. Stopping is not an option. Thanks again!

 

I know it has taken an absurd amount of time. You and Experiment1996 are one of the toughest cases I've seen here and reddit. But you've mentioned weeks ago that you had 3 good days in a row and also can do more than a lot of guys here. Experiment1996 has had several reduction in symptoms in his long reboot as well. I'm sure soon we'll see the good news from both of you writing the "Fully Healed Report".

 

How old are you @mentorr? If it can be shared.

 

I would like to share with you the knowledge I have received. I am still firmly convinced that chemical imbalance does not exist.

The following symptoms can occur with ejaculations. By ejaculation I mean semen leakage that did not occur during sexual intercourse. Rather, semen leakage that has occurred through masturbation, for example. This also does not refer to wet dreams. This information comes from an islamic scholar and doctor:

- not able or not fully able to be there for his wife during sexual intercourse

- premature ejaculation

- eyesight becomes weaker

- it weakens the nerves in general

- impairs digestion

- pain in the spine

- trembling in the legs

- brain can do less. less receptive

- pain in the chest. you don't feel well. melancholy. something weighs on the chest. sadness.

- physical exhaustion.

I advise my Muslim brothers to trust trustworthy Muslim doctors. I am aware that it is difficult to find a trustworthy righteous Muslim these days.

I advise non-Muslims to accept Islam. It is the only religion that common sense accepts.

I am here for you my Muslim brothers.

 

What happened to you? Everything okay?

 

The longer you stay abstinent, the clearer your head becomes. I don't care what you think of me. Take my information or leave it. You should be grateful that I'm giving you information from a doctor at all.

If there are any more ungrateful comments like that, I'll leave the group and you can die here.

 

So what recommendations did you give? In the last post?