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Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Deleted Account, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. Selfcontrol1

    Selfcontrol1 Fapstronaut

    Yeah I second that. I also agree there. Porn destroy love and respect for sex, our reproductive organs and our relationship with God,, (if we believe in a Creator)
     
  2. Selfcontrol1

    Selfcontrol1 Fapstronaut

    Agree
     
  3. Julius93

    Julius93 Fapstronaut

    You don't have to apologize. That part was the better part of your post. You can trigger us in that way all you want.
    That last part was a bit less, but at least you know it. You are on your way to a better future.
     

  4. This is a very insightful answer!!! I really appreciate it! A lot fits my bias as well as my experience. I would like to know if you do have any specific sources for the historical perspectives that you did offer? Are there books or studies about it?

    I think the "denial" of reproduction is something that one can even transform in some kind of philosophical interpretation of a lot of things happening in porn as well as in "postmodern-hedonism": everything that could be considered as a "goal" or an "aim" is rejected. All that counts is the act itself.

    The degrading part is so often denied that allready this denial makes me suspicious :p
     
  5. I cannot recommend you any specific english books at the moment, beside the quite detailed wikipedia articles about Homosexuality in ancient Greece/Rome, including several history books named as sources. If you go deeper into the history of the european witchhunts, you will also find the returning strong associations of devilworshipping with anal practices, sodomy=anal, it´s forbidden also in Islam; sodomy included beside anal sex beastiality, which was both considered on the same forbidden level. It was nothing uncommon in the older heathen cults, in the greek/roman myths are many tales how a god takes the shape of an animal to seduce a desired person. Temple prostitution was also common as a sacred service for the love/fertility deities.

    Yes, while an orgy was still embedded in religious rites or celebrations or at least a tolerated gathering and feast, arranged by wealthy members of the society, all the today porn is associated mostly with the idea of being part of a degrading dirty business, which drives its actors often into suicide and/or drug abuse and the consumers into addiction, shame and erectile dysfunction. It is hollow in itself and just another decadent variant of entertainment. Like sport broadcastings are most of all another marketing/sponsorship occasion now.
     
  6. No for me at all. Doesn’t do anything for me except yuk.
     
  7. It's way better. That is all. Last week my sub had anal sex 4/5 times. She loves. It there's nothing wrong with anal. Some love it some hate it.
     
  8. ak47_uk

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    Yes it’s a big thing in porn and yes it turns people on. However it’s the devils tool, and I would stay well away.
     
  9. Lol why is screwing something two inches over the devil's tool?
     
  10. ak47_uk

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    Not sure I understand, what u mean by two inches over?
     
  11. If you are screwing a woman's vagina and then put it in her asshole, her asshole that asshole is roughly two inches away from her vagina. Lol maybe more now that I think about it but not by much.
     
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  12. Hi @Ridethesnake, the answer given by @Vandermeer is along the right lines. I read this book relatively recently and it sheds a lot more light on how sex has always been used as a form of social control by religious and political institutions. It is no understatement to say that even now, power over sex is used for profit and in many areas/cultures of the world, it's still a social control mechanism.

    With regards to your query on anal sex, this book also explores the history of it's acceptability, restriction, demonisation etc through the ages depending on what the prevailing agenda was. I highly recommend you check it out: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17936465-sex-and-punishment :cool:
     
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  13. Bubbles

    Bubbles Fapstronaut

    Mega trigger warning. But you asked...

    Ultra conservative Christian here, and this is mostly just my opinion.

    Anal sex is just another tool in the sex toolkit - almost anything a husband and wife are doing in their marriage bed is just fine, be it missionary, nipple play, bondage, etc. Just do it right, in a loving and connecting way. SSC.

    Seriously, trigger warning, stop reading if you think you have any chance of text or butt stuff triggering you.

    Sex is made to connect people, and anal (especially the first few times) has to be done very carefully with a lot of prep work (cleaning, plugs to stretch, lube, etc) , lots of foreplay to relax, etc.

    They must constantly be communicating, feelings, desires, concerns, etc.

    Then when the man is putting it in, he must be willing to go at her place, so he must be connected with her and ready to stop at a moment's notice if it becomes painful (and she doesn't want that) no matter how good it is feeling for him. She has to be open, relaxed. I've heard she's usually focused entirely on the pleasure which is "different" and sometimes "overwhelming"

    It's extremely intimate and up to each couple to discuss among themselves, even the discussion should be a bonding experience.

    And if one partner has no interest but is willing to try, then that's something special. If they don't want to do it at all and that is respected, that's also special.

    Being that close to someone, both of you being so vulnerable but looking out for each other's interests over your own is undeniably erotic, and that is the attitude that belongs in the bedroom.

    Porn almost always ruins this important aspect of relationships. PMO assaults this foundation of sexual bonding and turns everything on it's head. This is one of the reasons PMO is so terrible!


    Anal is actually not my cup of tea and my wife isnt super in to it until she gets mega turned on. It's a "sometimes" treat.

    Also, you don't always have to put your manhood in there, I'm a huge fan of anal plugs, because PIV is AMAZING with a ribbed one in. I sometimes have issues lasting too long with condoms, this fixes that! No matter how tight she is it makes her tighter, and ribbed for both your pleasure! Also tried with a vibrating plug and all involved were pleased.

    IMHO.
     
  14. RndyBm

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    I'll tell you why it's there. And you can call me crazy. But I honestly don't care lol. Anal sex is there in porn because its the gateway to homosexuality. Theres so much emphasis on the ASS. This comes from the lifestyle of hip-hop. Look it up. Be careful what you click on. Because you might find, that the majority of your favourite hip hop and rappers are actually gay. And the reason for this is agenda based and ritualistic. If you can fuck a women in the ass. Why not a man? Its that thought process. To really mess with you. And all these hip hop women have the biggest asses. Not to trigger anyone. But you get the picture. So why the fascination over the ASS? It's simple. It's to prime the artist. To prime them to the fact that they want them to become homosexuals. Type in "P.Diddy is Gay" in google. You will be amazed what you find. Porn has Anal as a catgory, as a means to deviate away from your original thinking. To really fuck you up. Me personally. I have watched many porn flicks with anal. Its wasn't my first intention, but the thumbnail or whatever is what caught my attention. That's what they want. There are people who have bee addicted to porn, and have become homosexuals because of it. I'm not about that life. Each to their own. If you choose to be gay, that's your choice. But what I am saying is, Porn and the "anal" category alone, signifies this agenda that they want to corrupt your brain and your natural way of thinking.
     
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  15. Good, because, the conspiracy fear is strong in that one. Also the general believe in the fragility of your own sexual orientation, like it could be changed and tempted most easily by any simple manipulation. I can watch as many lesbian/straight porn as I could find, I won´t get more aroused or tricked into heterosexual sex as I have already in me. I wonder how you HOCD guys manage it all the time the other way around? Maybe I should start to watch drag king porn and observe how those work on me...oh wait, those are most rare...

    It´s rather the idea, as more something has been considered a societal taboo (like for example sex with sexual mature but underaged people in western societies now) as more it gets potential sexual power over people, just because it´s forbidden. By the way, I guess in your book of conspiracies Disney and all people, who allow children to use make-up or imitating any adult behaviour/fashion style have a secret pedophilia agenda?
     
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  16. RndyBm

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    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p...rome..69i57.4527j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    You're welcome for the link. Obviously like anything there is three sides to every story. There's the first side. Then the other. And then the Truth. And alot of the times, truth is stranger than fiction. You can choose to believe or not I am not forcing my opinions on you. Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever. I just don't know how other people don't see these things. Oh. I know. Because its subliminal, and therefore hidden in plain sight. Much like the addiction to pornography. You may start off with completely straight porn. But there are many people (not including myself) who have actually had a severe change in their orientation and sexual interests, purely based on what they are watching. It's that high to constantly want something extra to achieve that feeling. THe old stuff becomes boring. Like: "I've tried hardcore stuff, why not look at a girl get fucked by a horse?" Excuse the bluntness but this is how it can be.

    Excuse me:
    It's not the general fragility of my own sexual orientation thanks. I know what I am. And I know what I like. Porn however, gets into the subconscious mind and wreaks havoc. Watching a girl with a fat ass getting owned as you see commonly in porn, can most definitely lead the brain to other curiosities. It's why the business and like I mentioned before exists. To change you character and turn you away from what's real. That point on "societal taboo" is very true, because the natural form of entry is the womens vagina ,not her ass lmao. Shit comes out of there. Human waste. Nothing about that is clean, even if you has a shower. Later on shit is still gonna come out of there xD And people want to stick their unit in there? Ok be my guest. But not for me. I even get turned off by the fact when I have watched the scenes. I would switch to a "normal" scene (nothing is normal in the P world, as we all know). Anyway.

    Well that's a new one. Don't get me started on Disney, we'll be here for years xD
     
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  17. Because it goes deeper into having to surrender to men subordinate and be owned . The sensation in the anal is very different. The vagina is designed sensitiv beautiful feminin. The anal is animalistic the place where you shit where u r deeply ashamed by nature. The vaguna is ashamed too but opens in sex into longing. The anal is not longing. But it’s rather a willing agreement to submission and control and use to the male. The alpha male that demands to sacrifice your shame makes you his....I like it a lot. The problem is it can hurt a lot
     
  18. Jackb97

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    I think everything is fine as long as its not digital.
    Fireworks and hamsters anything goes.
     
  19. I knew already about the HOCD thing. That is why I have asked my question:
    How does it come, that this seems to work only in a one way direction?
    "Totally straight men" suddenly turn into helpless penis admirers, but not the other way around - why do confident homosexuals not suddenly start to enjoy boops, vaginas or staged lesbian sex scenes too and get their new- stuff kicks out of them?

    There is a permanent claim here in the forum, how reversable and easy the manipulation or twisting of the original sexual orientation would be, while the experiences and experiments over decades demonstrate, that it´s not possible to change the once manifestated sexual orientation of a person permanently. You cannot "cure" or convert a gay-only person. That has been proven since Victorian convict labour in prison, Dr. Mengele style trials by the Nazis, hypnosis/elektroshock/medical asylum treatments during the 50ies, till modern christian prayer boot camps. The results with forced heterosexuality are depression and very often suicide. It doesn´t work, even if the people cooperate and want it themselve: they can watch as much lesbian porn and boop pictures as possible, they will still react more to cock (you can measure these things on the uncontrollable dilating of the pupils and the EEG´s reactions, when confronted with sexual relevant material)

    I could not make myself straight by watching lesbian sex, beautiful single girls on cam and boops, even if I wanted to, because it just doesn´t excite me. I could have sex with a woman, but that makes me only partly bisexual at best. How manage so many "totally straight" guys suddenly the miracle to change their orientation by fapping off and get hard more to gay sex/cocks at all? I can see the point, how men start becoming confused by transgendered person sex and sissies, because it are not only the genitalias, but the secondary sexual attributes and the fantasy that gives us arousal. But then it´s by a trick to confuse the brain. There is enough "female" energy there, that excites the men, but that is just a confirmation of their generally stronger heterosexual orientation. If you would use pheromones on a male animal to mask it as a female, another male would willingly mount it and fuck it in the ass, because its brain and cock believes it´s the real deal.

    But to return to your "theory" (ass=homosexual). I´m not into girls´ big bootys, I cannot admire big round bottoms or broad hips, not because they are owned by a woman, but because they look too female for my personal taste. Same thing other way around: a straight man who loves these kind of big asses, like many do, would not want to touch or even watch a skinny, hairy male´s ass. Why should he? They are not horrified of anus per se (by the way, a clean hole is as clean as a cock or vagina is) It´s not about the orifice. (okay, maybe it´s for you, but that´s your personal bias)

    Yeah, evil agenda of the body snatchers...here we go again. It´s business. That´s the motive. Making money by this, because there is a big audience, which demands these things. Men want analsex porn, well it´s there of course. Men want beastiality? It´s there too. Men want rape? It´s out there, even if it´s declared illegal. You name it. Everything is out there, as better it sells as more of it. It has not even to be sold anymore, because people with same orientations tend to cluster together over the web and share their amateur stuff with each other. But there is no secret "porn headquarter", where evil geniuses plotting together like: "Hehe, how about making them all wanna screw cartoon figures instead real persons next?" "YOOO, that will be funny! Let´s manipulate and bomb them with subliminal messages and all turn them into ridiculous furries!"

    So, what are you writing about then? If you are so sure about yourself, why do you assume watching too many female asses could make any other straight man turn into a homosexual? That´s just bullshit. Also like your weird out of the blue statement most rappers would be secretly gay. That´s like: "most of the Marines, police forces and football stars are secretly gay!" They are not, because gay-only orientation is and always will be a small minority orientation in the population (maybe around 5%+-). There is only bisexuality as an alternative to a more or less degree and those who are in denial of it, sometimes develop "HOCD". Because they believe it´s wrong, sick, immoral, whatever. They just don´t want to have those feelings, are afraid of them and want to get rid of them. So they observe and watch themselve for any little sign of it. Gay/bisexual kids/teenager growing up in homophobic environments do often the same, before they can accept their unwanted desires. Imagine the situation without any web, and someone in a village behind the hills, believing, he would be the only person in the world with these strange, "unnatural" desires.

    That´s like: "Pigs are living in dirt and their own shit and eat everything! They are not eatable at all, disgusting and most unclean!"´ Think about the material sausages are made of! Most men love sausages.

    Urine comes out of the penis and vagina. Kissing implies taking another ones saliva and their wet tongue and bacterias into your mouth... Those things may be seem disgusting to little girls, when they are first explained, where the babies really come from. But they don´t shock any horny grown up man or modern teenage boy with internet access. Horny men are in fact often even more aroused and turned on by filthy and nasty stuff, because it also excites them same way as it might be repelling in the beginning.
    (dopamine factor - harder demands)
    They are ashamed of it later, but that doesn´t hinder them to return again for more.
    The shame comes from doing it secretly and feeling judged for it, if anyone else in real life would knew about it. Nobody in the West is ashamed of drinking alcohol, because it´s normal, as long not being an alcoholic. But in prohibition times there was a secret joy and guilt excitement coming with it too, like now with weed. Because they lost control over it, alcoholics often feel ashamed about it. Society doesn´t like it and they feel judged for it, that´s the true reason.

    If you want "clean sex", better play with asexual barbie dolls...or do virtual/phone sex.
    Sex is a part of human nature and our evolutionary heritage. Using the toilet is also often a messy thing, but nevertheless we all have to take a dump regularly. Like it or not, that´s "god´s plan and design".

    Nah, this a thread about analsex, not about conspiracy theories.
     
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  20. Bubbles

    Bubbles Fapstronaut

    I agree a with a lot of what you said, except my SSA is (almost) entirely gone through prayer and meditation. YMMV.
     

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